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Old 03-28-2011 | 12:23 PM
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Anyone licensed can do a recharge on the system. Just know that you have a leak somewhere and will have the problem again. And just know that it is illegal to intentionally vent freon in to the atmosphere. So by charging a system that is know to leak is exactly that. (just sayin) It just depends on how bad the leak is. You should have it leak checked so you're not stuck on the hottest day of the year with no AC because THAT's when it won't work. Happens all the time. When the all leaks are found, have them repaired and make sure a vacuum is put on the system BEFORE charging. Air and moisture are the absolute worst thing for AC systems. Once you have the vacuum down to the proper micron count, leave it all connected for about 1/2 hour to make sure the pressure doesn't rise back up. Vacuum is negative pressure btw. So if the suction side goes back up to 0 you still have a leak. If it holds vacuum, then you're good to go on charging. I believe the jeeps take just under 2 lbs of 134a. But you'd need to verify that for your vehicle. Good luck.
I was hoping that today was going to be somewhat warm. It was 48F this morning. I'm going to try the soap & water method for searching for the leak first. I also have a A/C detector dye that I can try. But how exactly do you detect a leak in the Evaporator? Just my eliminating all other possibilities I supposed?
Old 03-28-2011 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by puredrive
I was hoping that today was going to be somewhat warm. It was 48F this morning. I'm going to try the soap & water method for searching for the leak first. I also have a A/C detector dye that I can try. But how exactly do you detect a leak in the Evaporator? Just my eliminating all other possibilities I supposed?

The detector dye is good however it's very hard to spot on the inside of the condesor and obviously impossible for the evaporator. If you have a leak detecto(sniffer) you can turn the AC on and put the fans on low and stick the probe in the condensate drain and if you get a reading there, you have a leak somewhere in the heater/AC box. Really, there is only the evap and the lines going to the evap that can crack and leak. If you use the soap and water, you have to build up the pressure in the system 1st. Normally, if you have an obvious leak, you will see dirt built up at that obvious leak because there is refirgerant oil in the system. Normally when it leaks, it will leak oil and dirt will be attracted to it. That's one easy way to spot a leak.

I've tried the leak sealer in a can multiple times on mine and it doesn't work if you have more than a crack. The problem is, is that the pressure gets too high for that stuff to seal. It just blows it out. I actually just got my AC parts because my evap is leaking. If you do this job, be sure to replace your heater core as well while you are in there. It's a big job and the cost will be worth not to have to take the whole dash apart a 2nd time to do so. Plus, you need to recover the freon both times if doing them seperately.

Here is a quick view of the evap, heater core, orifice tube and accumulator for a reference.

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This is the new evap but wanted to show you the lines on where they could crack and leak

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If the evap is leaking it could also leak at one of the coils within the fins.
Again this is the new one going in to mine.

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Old 03-29-2011 | 08:21 AM
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Oh, and if you need to do the AC Evap job, here is an awesome write up I found on directions to do it.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/m...thread-592844/
Old 03-30-2011 | 12:40 PM
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Oh, and if you need to do the AC Evap job, here is an awesome write up I found on directions to do it.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/m...thread-592844/
Thanks Lyon. I had booked marked this link before. I got a whole folder dedicated to the Jeep

Got one more question. It has to do with the schrader valve. It either works or it doesn't? How do they diagnose it's a leak of the schrader valve? Just curious.

In case you have not noticed I am trying to avoid the evaporator fix by any means possible ..hehe
Old 03-30-2011 | 07:34 PM
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Thanks Lyon. I had booked marked this link before. I got a whole folder dedicated to the Jeep

Got one more question. It has to do with the schrader valve. It either works or it doesn't? How do they diagnose it's a leak of the schrader valve? Just curious.

In case you have not noticed I am trying to avoid the evaporator fix by any means possible ..hehe

I don't blame you at all for hoping it's not the evap. I'm not looking forward to doing mine either.

The schrader valve just screws in to the port. You're right, it holds or it doesn't. You can do the spray test to see if it's leaking and use a schrader tool to see if it's loose and tighten it if necessary. Whatever you do, don't remove it or any part of the system with freon in it. You won't be happy.

Cool you had the link already. My favorites list on Internet Explorer is getting full. All you see is jeep jeep jeep jeep.

Any other questions that you have I will be glad to answer to try to help you out.
Old 05-09-2011 | 12:24 PM
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I have a 99 and the a/c cycles constantly. It cycles no matter where i have the controls. It never blows cold air though.. do you think one of these switches might be the cause of this?
Old 05-10-2011 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by joetotheizzo3
I have a 99 and the a/c cycles constantly. It cycles no matter where i have the controls. It never blows cold air though.. do you think one of these switches might be the cause of this?
This is normal. The compressor cycles to keep a constant pressure so you get the ac system does not blow up. It works just like an air compressor, if you just let it keep building pressure then (at some point) something has to give, so the compressor kicks on when the freon pressure is to low and kicks off when it is high enough. Nothing to worry about.
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