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1997 4.0, Weird high idle then won’t start

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Old 05-05-2024, 07:33 AM
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Like the title says, 97 4.0. It usually idles at 600, but last weekend it idled at 900 which is never normal for mine. So I shut it off to see if it fixed it, and when I tried to turn it back on it just cranked hard but didn’t catch at all. Then after 4-5 tries it barely, barely caught and went “rm…rm…rm…” and slowly got faster until it was at normal rpm, like a cold start on a diesel tractor. After it warmed up, it started like normal and didn’t happen again until this weekend. I can’t figure out what would make it do that. It’s almost like the high idle sucks all the gas and the gas rail is empty when I try to start it afterwards? But i’m not good at diagnosing engines i’m just thinking out loud haha. Any help or ideas would be appreciated, I just replaced my tps a month or so ago( not because of problems but I thought it would help some stuff like shifts during hills, it didn’t lol).
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any codes?
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any codes?
Just one code, for an overvolted O2 sensor but that’s been up for almost 2 years, my cat rusted out so there isn’t an O2 at the cat.
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test your fuel pressure. In the meantime, try this. Turn the key to On for a few seconds. Then Off and On again. See if that affects the starting.
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test your fuel pressure. In the meantime, try this. Turn the key to On for a few seconds. Then Off and On again. See if that affects the starting.
I’ll definitely try the key thing, I didn’t even think about the poor man’s prime lol. Fuel pressure is good, at least it was 3 weeks ago when I checked it but I’ll check it again considering the problem didn’t start until last week. thanks!
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If you shut it off with the idle high I’d tend to think it flooded a bit and won’t start easy. The high idle probably either a dirty throttle plate that’s sticking open, or the IAC valve needs a cleaning, and Id go with #1. Mine actually acts up the exact same way and a small bit of carb cleaner and a toothbrush on the plate restores to normal
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