View Poll Results: What is the most likely cause of my engine troubles? (No audio yet, sorry)
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1998 xj issues
#61
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Alright will do. I think If I remove the crank, get it cleaned up like you said, and do a light hone, I can get everything back in without breaking the bank. The crank journls look way worse than they are, most are extremely smooth, and any little spots you see is just contamination from my gloves. Could the lines/grooves be material from the bearings?
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IDK but while it's out you need a thorough assessment.
BTW a refurb is only about 2 bucks with bearings:
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...ankshaft%20Kit
BTW a refurb is only about 2 bucks with bearings:
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...ankshaft%20Kit
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I saw a crankshaft for a similar price on rockauto, $212. In any case, I'd probably try my luck at polishing it up myself or getting it cleaned at a shop before I resort to buying another crank. On another note, should I be worried about cam wear at this mileage?
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Not if you get the aforementioned micrometer and measure the diameters.
Although equally (or more important) would be the cam bearings.
Anyway what's your ultimate goal and budget here? Originally, you posted
which suggests to me a budget-conscious plan.
If now you're drifting into a complete rebuild you're looking at getting to one large in a hurry. If so then maybe you should think about
Although equally (or more important) would be the cam bearings.
Anyway what's your ultimate goal and budget here? Originally, you posted
I'd like to take the piston from a junkyard 4.0
If now you're drifting into a complete rebuild you're looking at getting to one large in a hurry. If so then maybe you should think about
a local junkyard by me sells them for $199+$65 core
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Not if you get the aforementioned micrometer and measure the diameters.
Although equally (or more important) would be the cam bearings.
Anyway what's your ultimate goal and budget here? Originally, you posted
which suggests to me a budget-conscious plan.
If now you're drifting into a complete rebuild you're looking at getting to one large in a hurry. If so then maybe you should think about
Although equally (or more important) would be the cam bearings.
Anyway what's your ultimate goal and budget here? Originally, you posted
which suggests to me a budget-conscious plan.
If now you're drifting into a complete rebuild you're looking at getting to one large in a hurry. If so then maybe you should think about
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Bores ranged from 3.875-3.879, median was 3.877. So I should be good running standard pistons and rings. Rods journals were 2.096-2.098, and based on piston #3 and #4, the oil clearance was 0.003-0.005 in, so definitely out of spec. The bearings were worn so I'm not surprised.
Last edited by Mildphil; 12-27-2020 at 05:55 PM.
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How're you making out with the rod surfaces on the crank? Are those grooves or schmutz?
Yank off a main or 3, see how worn they are and check the clearance.
Getting close to Decision Time-- and IIWM I'd absolutely be doing the cam bearings, and it would naturally follow to slap in a new cam and lifters.
Yank off a main or 3, see how worn they are and check the clearance.
Getting close to Decision Time-- and IIWM I'd absolutely be doing the cam bearings, and it would naturally follow to slap in a new cam and lifters.
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Main cap bearing showing a size of 0.001 (under or oversized?)
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OK great, that's good news.
Removing the crank is kind of a big deal and probably not necessary. If the rod journals aren't too bad (and even if they are) IIWM I'd get caustic chemical de jour (Lye, Easy-Off Oven Cleaner or Muriatic Acid all at HD) and dissolve the schmutz. Those solutions dissolve aluminum, and for that matter your eyes if you get it in there. Don't leave any chemical behind.
I think If I remove the crank, get it cleaned up like you said, and do a light hone, I can get everything back in without breaking the bank. The crank journls look way worse than they are, most are extremely smooth, and any little spots you see is just contamination from my gloves. Could the lines/grooves be material from the bearings?
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Or were you thinking of going stroker?
Although I don't get those people.
It's not like you end up with a Hellcat Hemi.
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I'm starting to think THIS engine might be the best choice. The 98 head is a good head. The bottom will be tight. Cam and lifters you can do from the top. Gotta take a look at the rings.
Or were you thinking of going stroker?
Although I don't get those people.
It's not like you end up with a Hellcat Hemi.
Or were you thinking of going stroker?
Although I don't get those people.
It's not like you end up with a Hellcat Hemi.
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AutoZone makes a lifter removal tool that should help. Bang out the top mains with a tongue depressor.
Got this:
https://cdn.xjjeeps.com/pdf/en-us/19...ice-manual.pdf
Page 9-80 they fabricate a yanking tool.
Got this:
https://cdn.xjjeeps.com/pdf/en-us/19...ice-manual.pdf
Page 9-80 they fabricate a yanking tool.
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Polished up the #1 rod journal to clean off some of the junk, seemed to work pretty good! Also plastiguaged one of the mains and it was within spec at 0.002in.