The 2 plastic things on top of the Valve cover
#16
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From: Wilmington, NC
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Airbox -> Large hose -> elbow without orifice in front of valve cover -> Valve cover/crankcase/etc -> rear elbow with orifice -> Smaller tube -> nipple on intake behind throttle body
Also - the EVAP is fuel system and not PCV/CCV. If you are getting an EVAP code check to make sure your gas cap is on and tight.
Did you get the code right after getting gas?
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no I have cleared it several times and my gas cap seams tight (I had that happen on my Chevy pickup so I thought of that right away)
mine are installed backwards to yours (the plastic pieces that is) would this cause a rough idle and misfire ?
mine are installed backwards to yours (the plastic pieces that is) would this cause a rough idle and misfire ?
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From: Burbs of detroit
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Auto Zone lists them but most stores don't stock them. Advance usually does stock them however. It is a Dorman #47057. They also sell the grommets which are Dorman #42344s.
HOWEVER - that is ONLY the rear. Since the system is a CCV system it uses an orifice in the rear elbow instead of an actual valve.
The front is JUST an elbow and is dealer only. What I ended up doing was getting 2 of the Dormans and pulled the orifice restrictor out of one of them and used that in the front. It is a bit tough to grab but it is only snapped in.
HOWEVER - that is ONLY the rear. Since the system is a CCV system it uses an orifice in the rear elbow instead of an actual valve.
The front is JUST an elbow and is dealer only. What I ended up doing was getting 2 of the Dormans and pulled the orifice restrictor out of one of them and used that in the front. It is a bit tough to grab but it is only snapped in.
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From: Baltimore, Maryland
Year: 1994 1993
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Mine broke and I finally had to get another valve cover with them on it from the junkyard. I tried everything and could'nt figure out how to get them off from the inside. I would'nt worry to much. They do serve a purpose but neither are so important that you can't drive without them.
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From: Nor-Cal
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: The venerable 4.0
Originally Posted by Programbo
Mine broke and I finally had to get another valve cover with them on it from the junkyard. I tried everything and could'nt figure out how to get them off from the inside. I would'nt worry to much. They do serve a purpose but neither are so important that you can't drive without them.
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From: Baltimore, Maryland
Year: 1994 1993
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Yes, they are. Unfiltered air will come in your engine, dirty your oil and wear the crap out of your internals, especially on a dusty day. The rear needs to be there for two purposes. One to evacuate the crankcase of dirty fumes air and pressure as well as to allow the engine to function properly since it gives constant vacuum and the computer is programmed to adjust the engine in this condition. I certainly would not recommend running without them. No your engine won't die, but there is also no reason to run without. The grommets get baked on. You can get em out with a screwdriver.
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From: Nor-Cal
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
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Originally Posted by Programbo
Which one of the two did they decide you don't need on the newer XJs? When I was seraching for these things in the scrapyards I noticed they did away with or capped off one of the two later. I know I ran without anything on the front one of my two because it seemed it was and exhaust port for the valve cover. (That is the air flow was coming OUT of the cover heading over towards the air cleaner.)
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From: Singapore
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Okies....needed this topic...he he
Mine is a 1996 4.0 auto L6...
do I have to remove the valve cover to change it?
Mine started leaking oil from the rubber seal..the front one..
If I just need to pry it...any degree angle the cap suppose to be at?....how do I insert the new ones...any special instructions?
Thanks guys
Mine is a 1996 4.0 auto L6...
do I have to remove the valve cover to change it?
Mine started leaking oil from the rubber seal..the front one..
If I just need to pry it...any degree angle the cap suppose to be at?....how do I insert the new ones...any special instructions?
Thanks guys
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From: Nor-Cal
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: The venerable 4.0
Originally Posted by defconOne
Okies....needed this topic...he he
Mine is a 1996 4.0 auto L6...
do I have to remove the valve cover to change it?
Mine started leaking oil from the rubber seal..the front one..
If I just need to pry it...any degree angle the cap suppose to be at?....how do I insert the new ones...any special instructions?
Thanks guys
Mine is a 1996 4.0 auto L6...
do I have to remove the valve cover to change it?
Mine started leaking oil from the rubber seal..the front one..
If I just need to pry it...any degree angle the cap suppose to be at?....how do I insert the new ones...any special instructions?
Thanks guys
#28
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From: Singapore
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Thx slick761...will do it soon...was worried that I will break some parts and it will go into the engine...guess will pry it with flat screwdriver...wish me luck guys;-)
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From: Nor-Cal
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
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Originally Posted by defconOne
Thx slick761...will do it soon...was worried that I will break some parts and it will go into the engine...guess will pry it with flat screwdriver...wish me luck guys;-)
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