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Old 02-07-2016 | 01:55 PM
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Hey ya'll, my 2000 XJ started making a ticking/knocking sound a few weeks back. It almost sounds like a real bad exhaust leak but I am not 100% sure. The Jeep has 225k miles on it. Please help me diagnose this. If it is exhaust leak, I can fix it easy. If it is the motor then I need to start deciding on what to do. Either rebuild, stroke it, or V8 swap.

I have not noticed any loss in power.

Here is a link to a youtube video I took of it this morning.

Old 02-07-2016 | 08:15 PM
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that is not an exhaust leak. lifter or bearing one. hard to tell from the vid.
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If it's auto trans, check your flexplate to torque converter bolts first.

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f51/ho...ocking-125547/
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
If it's auto trans, check your flexplate to torque converter bolts first.

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f51/ho...ocking-125547/
Thanks Cruiser, I will check that out this weekend.
Old 02-08-2016 | 11:37 AM
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In my quest to track down on all weird noises coming from my XJ I noticed I had a sound very similar to this a few days ago. I am very excited to know there is a possible fix that does not cost huge amounts of $$$!
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Hopefully it isn't like my 2000. At 227k it broke the piston skirt on #6 and this was the fix:

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OP, you have a 2000 model that has the 0331 head on it. These heads have a known fatal casting flaw from the factory.

If it was mine, I would not do anything else before determining whether or not the head is cracked.
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OP, you have a 2000 model that has the 0331 head on it. These heads have a known fatal casting flaw from the factory.

If it was mine, I would not do anything else before determining whether or not the head is cracked.
The head is actually the 0331 TUPY head so I am sure it was replaced some time in the past.
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Good. I wonder if there was any internal damage that is just now showing up?
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Originally Posted by Firestorm500
Good. I wonder if there was any internal damage that is just now showing up?
I am not sure if this internal damage. I mean there could be but the Jeep runs just as good today as the day I got it. I have been trying to plan what to do if/when this motor goes.
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My 2000 XJ did have the factory head crack about 5 years ago or so, and it did in fact damage a lifter, so I do now have a "lifter-tick"

If the sound goes away when you rev the engine, its probably a lifter tick.

Another indication of a damaged lifter is when tightening the pushrod/rocker head assembly, the pushrod above the damage lifter will seem loose.

If you do have a damaged lifter, you could try stepping your oil weight up one level, however I wouldn't recommend that unless you have other wear factors on the car. My engine has pretty worn bearings so I run a thicker oil during the summer and it helps the engine run smoother and quieter.
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Originally Posted by BamaJosh
I am not sure if this internal damage. I mean there could be but the Jeep runs just as good today as the day I got it. I have been trying to plan what to do if/when this motor goes.
LS3.
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Originally Posted by Firestorm500
LS3.
i couldn't think of a better way to spend 3x the vehicles value on an engine swap.
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Originally Posted by s346k
i couldn't think of a better way to spend 3x the vehicles value on an engine swap.
People do it all the time.

$4000 worth of wheels and tires on a $500 vehicle, for example.
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Originally Posted by Firestorm500
People do it all the time.

$4000 worth of wheels and tires on a $500 vehicle, for example.
Posted 28 June 2015 - 08:57 AM

Ongoing list of parts replaced and approx costs-



Original purchase- $2500

Purchase of donor, '94 XJ, $500

Initial front end parts purchase from Rockauto, included KYB shocks, Moog steering parts and track bar and UCAs and LCAs, $430

Replaced LCAs with NAPA Chassis, WJ, $130

OME front coils, $200

Isolator pads, 3/4 lift, $30

JKS rear shackles, $100

JKS adjustable tracbar, $206

Bilstein 4600 shocks, 4, $300

Replaced bushings in rear springs, NAPA Chassis, $100

Replaced rear leaf springs, General Spring, $350

Replaced original donor 4x4 trans with Wrangler AX5, reclocked, $200 plus travel.

Replaced bench seat with bench seat, $60 plus travel.

Purchase of XJ front buckets yet to be installed, $150

One front and two trans mounts, $35

Purchase of Brown Dog engine mounts, yet to be installed, $90

Federal axle ujoints $25

Front brakes, included calipers, hoses, rotors, pads, $120

Replaced D35 with C8.25, to included KJ discs, total to included related parts, $500

Replaced rear Bilsteins with Gabriels after 3" lift, $75

New drive shaft, $225

Hurst short-throw and TC stick, $300

ACC carpet, first $200 and just ordered replacement, $116, total to include learning curve, $300

New exhaust, $180

WJ power steering pump, with hose, $40

WJ power brake booster and master, to include related, $50

Upgrade to 105 Amp Alt, $90

Upgrade headlight and harness, $50

Ravines, no cost.

Cooper tires, 31s, $700

Rear bumper, homemade, value to include labor and parts, $350+

Tool box, free, $100 value.

Replaced front grille and bezels with chrome, modified to fit from '92 XJ, $70

Replaced clutch, LUK, $100

Replaced clutch master, twice, $80

Battery, $65

Replaced all sensors and upgrade wiring to include cables and all related, $350

New engine, yet to be installed, $3000

New steering wheel, to be replaced again, $130

Brake cables, replaced twice, $60



Changing total- $12,341





Rugged Ridge floor mats, $75

Front 28mm sway bar from XJ, $30

Rear sway bar from Blazer, $50

Octagon aluminum radiator overflow, Jegs, $50

Bilstein 5125 at the rear, $156

Sony head unit, $120

Spicer ball joints $103

Bilstein 5100 front shocks, 145



New total- $13,070



Terraflex D30 cover- $99

Crown steering shaft- $95





Ironman Fabrication UCAs and LCAs $440



Fuel Maverick Wheels, 9x18, $980

Nitto 285/60-18 $989

Curt front receiver $ 101

Bushwacker flares $ 413

Warrior Prod. 560 bumper $330


New total- $16,517



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