well than i guess that is his problem.... but you also kno what.. you will not learn if you do not try.... like i say there is always a first time for everything and if you dont try it ever than all you are doing is wasting more money to pay people who really dont know what they are doing to do it for you... it does not take thattttt long to do it and the process is not worth anything near 500 buck for it... its not that hard, and with a little patience anyone can do it...

 

and how about that muffler stuck on the cat?

 

well the "indend" that is on your muffler is from when they tightened down the muffler clamp.. it pretty much presses the metal together... the way i have always done it from stock was to just use a sawzall and cut it off. you can get clamps that will slid over your exsisting pipe to make it fit, and if its possible than just weld it back together but idk if you can do that or not.. dont kno what your supply of tools are.... if not than you can use muffler clamps again.. the only problem i have with muffler clamps is that you can get leaks through those and that is kind of annoying to me

 

well if you cant get it off with a hammer you might need to cut it off.....have you tried to work it out like workin it back and forth or somethin

 

well im tryin to get the old one off to get a brand spankin new catback on but its the muffler back and i got a sawzall, a torch, grinder, sledge, some air tools prob everything i need but i dont wanna cut it because the muffler is connected right to the cat converter and i have to keep the cat

 

no torch a o2 tank to heat things up

 

well a thing you can do is make a relief cut in the muffler flange... if you really want to get the muffler off without cutting into the cat than make a few cuts on the muffler flange so that the metal will expand... and it will not be pressed together anymore.. i find myself making relief cuts all the time to get stuff apart like in your example

 

x2 thats a good idea

 

relief cuts like make some cuts on the piece that connects the two then heat it up and stick a screwdriver in there and pry it apart?

 

once you make your cuts... you should be able to spin your muffler around and this will in turn expand your flange

 

im sorry but im confused as hell right now

 

yea thats what i mean by it.. run like a grinder or die grinder parallel with your muffler flange from where your muffler ends to where your cat starts it will split the metal holding them together and if you need to use a screwdriver to split them than more power to ya..

 

alright its like 7:30 now so ill prob try that tommorow if i can ill take it to my buddys and hes got a torch!

 

thanks a ton for the help and on a final note GO PACKERS vs. Vikings tonight 8:30 est its gonna be a good one

 

I plan on installing my gears myself as well (im only 16). Just take some time to read up on it before hand, and make sure the gears are set right before driving at all.