4.5inch vs 3 ?????
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#35
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From: Allentown, Pa
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
My Jeep with the 4.5" Rough Country lift and Procomp 33" tires:
Some things to know before you purchase you kit:
- As with any lift, be prepared for ANYTHING to break. I made the mistake of starting my lift on a Tuesday afternoon before a holiday and broke a bunch of stuff doing it. I was out of my Daily Driver for a while.
- I love my Rough Country lift, but it rides very stiff. A lot of people don't like stiff riding vehicles, but I absolutely love it. I'd rather have a stiff ride than a soft one any day.
- Do as much research on installing the lift as you can. The more knowledgable you are on the subject the easier everything will be. Plus, researching on these forums will help you know what's most likely to break when doing the lift and how to overcome those broken parts.
- Most likely parts to break are: Rear upper shock mount bolts, leaf spring eye bolts (More so front eyes than rear), front spring retaining clip bolts, and transfer case crossmember bolts/studs. Be prepared for this. If you need help with fixing any of those broken bolts, I can help. I broke all of them haha. Damn rust. My Jeep doesn't have any rust holes, but everythings rust welded together...
- Don't do the lift install in a place that the Jeep can't sit for a while. If you break something and need to wait to get a replacement part, you're going to block whatevers behind the Jeep 'cuz your most likely not going to be able to move it anywhere.
- Absolutely, no exceptions, get the leaf spring full pack upgrade. It's really not that much more and it will last 1,000x longer than an AAL. Plus, they usually add a bit more lift than an AAL, simply because they're new and haven't sagged.
- I also added the NRC9000 shock upgrade and shock boots to my lift order. It's not necessary, but I would recommend it. Again, it's really not a lot of money but it goes a long way.
- See if you can find some nice larger tires used somewhere. A 4.5" lift with stock tires looks stupid... I know from personal experience. Again, not needed, but recommended.
- Don't cry when you finish the lift and realise how much that 4.5" lift lifted your rig. I had lifted my Jeep up as far as my jack and jack stand would go as a "joke" with my cousin. We both joked about "What if I actually lifted it this high???" When the lift was said and done, I lowered the Jeep about a half inch to the ground. I was so happy I wanted to cry... I wanted to lift the Jeep for YEARS but never thought I would actually get it done. It was my dream =) I also had 31's on the Jeep before and during the lift.
Here's a pic of stock tires on my Jeep with one of my 33's next to it. It hurts my pride to much to show a full pic of the Jeep with stock tires on it.... It's embarassing. Trust me...
Some things to know before you purchase you kit:
- As with any lift, be prepared for ANYTHING to break. I made the mistake of starting my lift on a Tuesday afternoon before a holiday and broke a bunch of stuff doing it. I was out of my Daily Driver for a while.
- I love my Rough Country lift, but it rides very stiff. A lot of people don't like stiff riding vehicles, but I absolutely love it. I'd rather have a stiff ride than a soft one any day.
- Do as much research on installing the lift as you can. The more knowledgable you are on the subject the easier everything will be. Plus, researching on these forums will help you know what's most likely to break when doing the lift and how to overcome those broken parts.
- Most likely parts to break are: Rear upper shock mount bolts, leaf spring eye bolts (More so front eyes than rear), front spring retaining clip bolts, and transfer case crossmember bolts/studs. Be prepared for this. If you need help with fixing any of those broken bolts, I can help. I broke all of them haha. Damn rust. My Jeep doesn't have any rust holes, but everythings rust welded together...
- Don't do the lift install in a place that the Jeep can't sit for a while. If you break something and need to wait to get a replacement part, you're going to block whatevers behind the Jeep 'cuz your most likely not going to be able to move it anywhere.
- Absolutely, no exceptions, get the leaf spring full pack upgrade. It's really not that much more and it will last 1,000x longer than an AAL. Plus, they usually add a bit more lift than an AAL, simply because they're new and haven't sagged.
- I also added the NRC9000 shock upgrade and shock boots to my lift order. It's not necessary, but I would recommend it. Again, it's really not a lot of money but it goes a long way.
- See if you can find some nice larger tires used somewhere. A 4.5" lift with stock tires looks stupid... I know from personal experience. Again, not needed, but recommended.
- Don't cry when you finish the lift and realise how much that 4.5" lift lifted your rig. I had lifted my Jeep up as far as my jack and jack stand would go as a "joke" with my cousin. We both joked about "What if I actually lifted it this high???" When the lift was said and done, I lowered the Jeep about a half inch to the ground. I was so happy I wanted to cry... I wanted to lift the Jeep for YEARS but never thought I would actually get it done. It was my dream =) I also had 31's on the Jeep before and during the lift.
Here's a pic of stock tires on my Jeep with one of my 33's next to it. It hurts my pride to much to show a full pic of the Jeep with stock tires on it.... It's embarassing. Trust me...
#36
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From: Coquitlam, B.C.
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
(Quote from http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f11/o...l-read-426483/ )
The worst possible setup you can have is a 96+ with an auto transmission, a NP242 transfer case, and an 8.25 rear axle. This combo makes for a long drivetrain and the 8.25 pinion housing is also quite long. These factors will leave you with a short rear driveshaft and even a 2" lift will see negative affects from it.
#38
if you're serious about wheeling and not just looking for the cool factor, getting a 3" AND taller tires would be your best bet. if you're running a 4.5 lift and 31" tires... your still pretty low to the ground that lift really isn't doing anything except looking cool
#39
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From: dingmans Ferry, PA
Year: 99
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
i put the 4.5 rubicon express super flex kit...it comes with everything but a new pitman arm...its a little expensive but well worth and i spent the couple of extra bucks to go for the better leaf springs not the add-a-leaf...only issue them is that their bushings suck...check them out
#40
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From: Columbus, Ohio
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0, comp cam, 99 intake, apn header, neon injectors, Thunderbolt 2.5" High Flow Cat
#42
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From: cape cod ma.
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 i6
i just did a rough country kit on a grand cherokee for a customer 3.5in and it was a great kit.......but it just had me drill a hole to correct the track bar, it came with a rinky dink t-case drop,and i had to reuse almost every stock bolt, which is fine if they come apart ok......good for the money but if you look at what the kit includes the better ones have more parts...... compare:
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#43
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From: cape cod ma.
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 i6
not to be a dink but...incorrect: a 3in with bigger tires will have less room for flex only a good theory if you want to hack the body to death or are playin in the mud..a 4.5 with 31s works very well in trails i did it for a while before moving up to 32s
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#45
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From: Allentown, Pa
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO