4wd question
#1
4wd question
Hey guys,
I've had 3 XJ's now... 94, 95, and my current 98. And whenever I've had them in 4wd hi, I can't turn the steering wheel all the way to the left or right...It starts fighting me. What the hell is that? Is that by design?
Thanks for your input.
I've had 3 XJ's now... 94, 95, and my current 98. And whenever I've had them in 4wd hi, I can't turn the steering wheel all the way to the left or right...It starts fighting me. What the hell is that? Is that by design?
Thanks for your input.
#2
Yes this is normal with the 231 transfer case.. what you are feeling is the driveline binding.. not good to do. In part time 4H the front and rear axles are locked together and rotate at the same speed. So on a surface with no slip the case binds. You should really only be using part time 4H on a slippery surface, dry pavement = bad.
The 241 transfer case has full time 4H which can be used even on dry pavement.
Its a bit of a pain with the 231 case as if you live in an area within the snow belt, you have to constantly shift in and out of 4wd depending on the road conditions. It sucks pulling away from a light or something with just a small patch of snow on the ground and spinning the rear wheels (or wheel in some cases.. ).
The 241 transfer case has full time 4H which can be used even on dry pavement.
Its a bit of a pain with the 231 case as if you live in an area within the snow belt, you have to constantly shift in and out of 4wd depending on the road conditions. It sucks pulling away from a light or something with just a small patch of snow on the ground and spinning the rear wheels (or wheel in some cases.. ).
Last edited by Techno Duck; 02-05-2011 at 03:46 PM.
#4
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From: Chattanooga
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6
I'd get the np242 if you live in the snow belt and don't do heavy off-roading. Full-Time is extremely handy, more useful and also a lot of fun in the snow for like doing 4WD power drifts and what not!
#5
I replaced the head gasket for the first time on my 97 and the same day put it in 4 wheel for the first time and it made that sound. I thought what now. I don't think there is anything wrong with the noise. Now my new tires prevent me from turning to the termination point anyway.
#6
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Yeah I don't have to worry about snow anymore since moving from CT to Socal, but just out of curiosity....Do you guys know how difficult it would be switching to a np242?
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#8
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From: Cove, OR
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Also the problem with turning all the way to the right or left ( read to the steering bump stops ) when in 4wd could also be the axle u-joints binding even if he is on dirt or mud, plus, the front axle could have a LSD or a locker.
Last edited by Rock Toy; 02-07-2011 at 01:27 PM.
#10
Originally Posted by Techno Duck
Yes this is normal with the 231 transfer case.. what you are feeling is the driveline binding.. not good to do. In part time 4H the front and rear axles are locked together and rotate at the same speed. So on a surface with no slip the case binds. You should really only be using part time 4H on a slippery surface, dry pavement = bad.
The 241 transfer case has full time 4H which can be used even on dry pavement.
Its a bit of a pain with the 231 case as if you live in an area within the snow belt, you have to constantly shift in and out of 4wd depending on the road conditions. It sucks pulling away from a light or something with just a small patch of snow on the ground and spinning the rear wheels (or wheel in some cases.. ).
The 241 transfer case has full time 4H which can be used even on dry pavement.
Its a bit of a pain with the 231 case as if you live in an area within the snow belt, you have to constantly shift in and out of 4wd depending on the road conditions. It sucks pulling away from a light or something with just a small patch of snow on the ground and spinning the rear wheels (or wheel in some cases.. ).
#11
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From: Chattanooga
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6
Yeah, your stuck in 4WD. Adjust your linkage.
Pull the lever all the way back in 4Lo as far as it will go. Get under the vehicle and there is an adjusting bolt on the linkage. Loosen it a touch, pull the metal rod down that the bolt secures and then retighten it back up.
Should do the trick.
Mine did the same roughly a month ago and just adjusted the linkage. All is fine now. You really don't want to run in Part-Time on the road. The front tires will go bald very fast and you put unneeded extra stress on your vehicle.
Im thinking maybe a sticky for 4WD NP231/242 on the road. DON'T DO IT (Part-time on road). Read what is posted on your sun visor! Then also have a link on how to adjust the linkage.
Pull the lever all the way back in 4Lo as far as it will go. Get under the vehicle and there is an adjusting bolt on the linkage. Loosen it a touch, pull the metal rod down that the bolt secures and then retighten it back up.
Should do the trick.
Mine did the same roughly a month ago and just adjusted the linkage. All is fine now. You really don't want to run in Part-Time on the road. The front tires will go bald very fast and you put unneeded extra stress on your vehicle.
Im thinking maybe a sticky for 4WD NP231/242 on the road. DON'T DO IT (Part-time on road). Read what is posted on your sun visor! Then also have a link on how to adjust the linkage.
Last edited by red_dog007; 02-09-2011 at 12:26 AM.
#12
Originally Posted by red_dog007
Yeah, your stuck in 4WD. Adjust your linkage.
Pull the lever all the way back in 4Lo as far as it will go. Get under the vehicle and there is an adjusting bolt on the linkage. Loosen it a touch, pull the metal rod down that the bolt secures and then retighten it back up.
Should do the trick.
Mine did the same roughly a month ago and just adjusted the linkage. All is fine now. You really don't want to run in Part-Time on the road. The front tires will go bald very fast and you put unneeded extra stress on your vehicle.
Im thinking maybe a sticky for 4WD NP231 on the road. DON'T DO IT. Read what is posted on your sun visor! Then also have a link on how to adjust the linkage.
Pull the lever all the way back in 4Lo as far as it will go. Get under the vehicle and there is an adjusting bolt on the linkage. Loosen it a touch, pull the metal rod down that the bolt secures and then retighten it back up.
Should do the trick.
Mine did the same roughly a month ago and just adjusted the linkage. All is fine now. You really don't want to run in Part-Time on the road. The front tires will go bald very fast and you put unneeded extra stress on your vehicle.
Im thinking maybe a sticky for 4WD NP231 on the road. DON'T DO IT. Read what is posted on your sun visor! Then also have a link on how to adjust the linkage.
#13
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From: Chattanooga
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6
Full-Time is perfect. Good thing that it isn't stuck in Part-Time.
When mine happened to me, I went from Full-Time to 2WD, and it got stuck in Part-Time. :-p.
When mine happened to me, I went from Full-Time to 2WD, and it got stuck in Part-Time. :-p.
#14
Originally Posted by red_dog007
Full-Time is perfect. Good thing that it isn't stuck in Part-Time.
When mine happened to me, I went from Full-Time to 2WD, and it got stuck in Part-Time. :-p.
When mine happened to me, I went from Full-Time to 2WD, and it got stuck in Part-Time. :-p.
#15
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From: Las Cruces, NM
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
What if u can't get it to engage the 4wd low. Mine will cycle through 2wd, part time, 4 hi but won't engage in 4 low. Have a 90xj. Not sure tc. Just bought it couple weeks back. Thank
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