89 4.0l computer issues
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89 4.0l computer issues
Having some runability issues. Jeep starts fine and idles but if you give it any throttle in falls on its face and pop. While doing many other tests on all of the sensors and wiring i found that the wiring to the injectors were in the wrong spots according to two different schematics. #3 and #4 were swapped and so were #5 and #6. Put them back to the wiring diagram and it still runs the exact same. Does this indicate a computer issue? I also noticed it has a computer in it out of a manual jeep and mine is an auto. Background I bought this jeep not running and according to the vin it had a 4cyl in it from the factory but has all of the correct tags and stickers under the hood for the 6cyl. Any info would be greatly appreciated.
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From: Dallas, Texas
Year: 1987
Model: Wagoneer
Engine: 4.0L
I am inferring that you have an auto trans in it? I think I'd start by tracing your leads once more and checking again. Also check your plug wires while you're at it. In fact, a full tune up with new wires, dist cap, and plugs couldn't hurt. Check the color and gap of the plugs and see if anything looks amiss. Lastly, it could be a bad fuel pump, check the fuel pressure at the rail with a kit you can rent from the auto parts store.
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From: Dallas, Texas
Year: 1987
Model: Wagoneer
Engine: 4.0L
Cruiser - is that true between the Autos and the Manual ECUs as well? I thought I remembered reading somewhere that they were different in some way.
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From: Prescott, Az
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
You would never notice the difference between manual and auto.
You will notice the difference using an 89 or 90 ECU in a 1988 or 1987.
You will notice the difference using an 89 or 90 ECU in a 1988 or 1987.
Last edited by cruiser54; 04-01-2020 at 05:22 PM.
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Fuel pressure is at 31, 39 with the pressure regulator vacuum line pulled. All of the sensors have been tested. All of the plugs, wires, cap, rotor, coil, and distributor have been replaced. I also went through the setup of the distributor you sent me on another thread. Fuel filters have been replaced. Fuel tank has been removed and cleaned. I have even ohmed out the wiring for the injectors back to the ecm.
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I had only looked at the distributor indexing tip. If the weather holds out tomorrow I will go out and go through all the other tips and let you know.
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From: Dallas, Texas
Year: 1987
Model: Wagoneer
Engine: 4.0L
And to the original poster; don't be intimated by doing the C101 connector elimination. I avoided it for *years* and just recently did it. It's really really not that bad and I'm glad I did it even though I want really having any issues at the moment, it's one less thing to have on the "worry about" list.
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From: Prescott, Az
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
You're not joking there. I upgraded from my '87 ECU to an '89 or '90 and it's a noticable difference. Btw, is there a way to tell what year it's from by the serial number? I simply cannot recall what year it's from and I'd like to know. It may even be from an '88?
And to the original poster; don't be intimated by doing the C101 connector elimination. I avoided it for *years* and just recently did it. It's really really not that bad and I'm glad I did it even though I want really having any issues at the moment, it's one less thing to have on the "worry about" list.
And to the original poster; don't be intimated by doing the C101 connector elimination. I avoided it for *years* and just recently did it. It's really really not that bad and I'm glad I did it even though I want really having any issues at the moment, it's one less thing to have on the "worry about" list.
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Joined: Oct 2012
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From: Garnet Valley, Pa
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I have been looking on here for years for information about my xj and found a lot. Follow Cruiser's tips, I printed them out and keep them in repair manual. Do them first, I had a problem a few years back, did all the tips and it helped. A year ago I had something like what sounds like you have, replaced a lot parts and still not improvement. Found Nick who makes a Renix engine monitor (REM) bought one and it helped me find that the MAP sensor that I got new was bad. Hope that helps
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