99 runs very rough midway thru warmup then smooths out
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Year: 1998 Classic (I'll get it running soon....) and 02 Grand
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Engine: 4.0
Any codes? Not much to go on, but I'd be looking at the 02 sensors. A look at your fuel trims would help. Got a Bluetooth OBDII reader?
Vacuum leak is another possibility.
Vacuum leak is another possibility.
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Thanks, BRM.
No, dont have one, took it to autozone for free read. Said P0138 and O2 circuit signal had high voltage Bank 1, Sensor 2. But they were confused as to which O2 sensor to order...and want to learn more before buying any O2.
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p0138 the sensor after the catalytic converter , make sure to only to buy NTK 23099 (not bosch sensor). BUT BEFORE you but go underneath the Jeep and trace the wires. Many times the clip that holds the wiring to the sensor falls off and the wires fall on the drive shaft which wears them out and basically cuts them causing your code (which was the case in my Jeep). Do NOT buy this from autozone they charge $77 vs $30 shipped from Rockauto.com (plus you can take off 5%, get a coupon at retailmenot). But first check your wiring under the Jeep to see if it's worn out.
Also, the oxygen sensor after the catalytic converter would NOT cause any issues of the Jeep running rough it is strictly for emmsions. The sensor before the catalyctic converter would cause issues but it would not give the P0138 code.
Also, the oxygen sensor after the catalytic converter would NOT cause any issues of the Jeep running rough it is strictly for emmsions. The sensor before the catalyctic converter would cause issues but it would not give the P0138 code.
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Thanks EMX, yep
All four wires ripped apart by shaft, looks to be brand new cat and sensor ... clip is fine, mech prob didnt get it on there good.
four wires 2 white 1 blue 1 gray could not tell if whites were specific, just went by clock order. Still runs same as you said it would. Will get codes checked to see if its changed. Engine light still on also...And if the Sensor does not affect engine management I can toss the cat and sensor, correct? Whats your guess on the cause of stumble during warmup at about halfway to full temp. Thanks.
four wires 2 white 1 blue 1 gray could not tell if whites were specific, just went by clock order. Still runs same as you said it would. Will get codes checked to see if its changed. Engine light still on also...And if the Sensor does not affect engine management I can toss the cat and sensor, correct? Whats your guess on the cause of stumble during warmup at about halfway to full temp. Thanks.
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All four wires ripped apart by shaft, looks to be brand new cat and sensor ... clip is fine, mech prob didnt get it on there good.
four wires 2 white 1 blue 1 gray could not tell if whites were specific, just went by clock order. Still runs same as you said it would. Will get codes checked to see if its changed. Engine light still on also...And if the Sensor does not affect engine management I can toss the cat and sensor, correct? Whats your guess on the cause of stumble during warmup at about halfway to full temp. Thanks.
four wires 2 white 1 blue 1 gray could not tell if whites were specific, just went by clock order. Still runs same as you said it would. Will get codes checked to see if its changed. Engine light still on also...And if the Sensor does not affect engine management I can toss the cat and sensor, correct? Whats your guess on the cause of stumble during warmup at about halfway to full temp. Thanks.
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Year: 1998 Classic (I'll get it running soon....) and 02 Grand
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Since he's having running problems, and the rear sensor is setting a code, I think he'd be wise to replace it. (I''m assuming he's fixed the ring problems at this point.)
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thanks much will check codes
ok gonna check codes with rewired 2nd.
and is it ok to try and run it with the 1st O2 sensor unplugged or is that unwise? any suggestions on good sensor brands to go another 166k. looks like might haveto do both, could some other sensor be the culprit also? ill get back with code chk...
and is it ok to try and run it with the 1st O2 sensor unplugged or is that unwise? any suggestions on good sensor brands to go another 166k. looks like might haveto do both, could some other sensor be the culprit also? ill get back with code chk...
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ok gonna check codes with rewired 2nd.
and is it ok to try and run it with the 1st O2 sensor unplugged or is that unwise? any suggestions on good sensor brands to go another 166k. looks like might haveto do both, could some other sensor be the culprit also? ill get back with code chk...
and is it ok to try and run it with the 1st O2 sensor unplugged or is that unwise? any suggestions on good sensor brands to go another 166k. looks like might haveto do both, could some other sensor be the culprit also? ill get back with code chk...
Sensors on these beasts are pretty touchy. THey like Mopar (NGK/NTK) Aftermarket not recommended usually. That said, I've been okay with NAPA on the O2 sensor. Seems to not be as picky.on those.
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02 is good now, new code P0443 Evap circuit
could this be the cause seems like a very broad trouble code, what kicks this code in to action?
Have to say I already have carb conversions and 4 barrel v8 day dreams rolling around in my head...
Thanks for all advice you guys know thdese well.
Have to say I already have carb conversions and 4 barrel v8 day dreams rolling around in my head...
Thanks for all advice you guys know thdese well.
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