Andrew Peakman

Its as if I had both things go at once . Starter went bad at exactly the same time the park neutral switch went bad ?? It seems unlikely to me . After replacing the starter however I can get the car to start which it definitely would not start with it's old starter . Just seems odd to me , hasn't been off-road for the past month or two , hasn't been through a puddle to potentially mess up some electronics . Hahaha.im ranting on now . I appreciate everyones help, I may just look into making a push to start button to bypass whatever switch is giving me a headache

lawsoncl

Do you have a voltmeter or test light to aid in troubleshooting? Are you getting power to the solenoid trigger wire? If not, I would start by measuring at the starter relay in the power distribution center. Voltage to trigger the relay comes from the ignition switch, and the ground is through the NSS.

Also, check this video about jumping with a screwdriver. If you jump the wrong two, it'll spin the motor but not engage with the flywheel.

Usually if it's the NSS, wiggling the starter or trying in neutral help. Here's a video on how to bypass it for testing.

And a video on fixing the NSS.

Andrew Peakman

Those are very useful videos , attempted to bypass the neutral switch , to no avail . So I think it must be the ignition switch . I know for fact my old starter was done for, because when I pulled it out and tested it with my jump box it did the same spinning motion and sound without pushing the actual gear forward--edit assuming it is ignition switch based on you saying the neutral safety gets spark from the ignition switch . Makes sense to me . I'm going to make her a push to start I think .