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Old 11-23-2009, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by muddeprived
He did quite a few times. It held up alright. I guess it's the stiffer dodge ram springs that make it do-able.
And you can get lucky several times playing russian roulette, doesn't mean I'd try it. Blocks for that much lift is unsafe and a ghetto thing to do
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And you can get lucky several times playing russian roulette, doesn't mean I'd try it. Blocks for that much lift is unsafe and a ghetto thing to do
Tell me about it. That's what superlift supplies in their kits.
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just my two cents. it's illegal to lift with block where i live. though seldom enforced (like windows tinted too dark) the authorities can impound your rig if it's not safe for highway use. i used the S-10 bastartd/V-8 GC springs. 3 and half over all with 265/16 tires
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Originally Posted by korn9613
"Have you ever seen a leaf spring wrap into an "S" shape when you press on the accelerator? Blocks with old stock leaf springs simply is a problem waiting to happen. We don't give the worst case scenarios, we give advice to avoid what can be a potential problem in the future so they don't waste their money."

cant say i have ever seen a straight six wrap a leaf spring up, id love to see it i you could show me one.


"shackles are to *help* correct rear sag and pinion angle. AAL's are a band-aid. blocks are for rednecks, or for absolute POS trail beaters destined for the scrap yard after one more run."

id put my POS against your POS anytime
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Originally Posted by korn9613
"Have you ever seen a leaf spring wrap into an "S" shape when you press on the accelerator? Blocks with old stock leaf springs simply is a problem waiting to happen. We don't give the worst case scenarios, we give advice to avoid what can be a potential problem in the future so they don't waste their money."

cant say i have ever seen a straight six wrap a leaf spring up, id love to see it i you could show me one.


"shackles are to *help* correct rear sag and pinion angle. AAL's are a band-aid. blocks are for rednecks, or for absolute POS trail beaters destined for the scrap yard after one more run."

id put my POS against your POS anytime
...and I'll win, gladly and humbly.

no offense, but a properly built rig is going to win. the only time I've seen a POS win against a properly built rig, the POS was treated like what it is...and it won the competition but didn't get back home in operating condition.

the goal is to make it there and back...not to make it there, have fun, and scratch your head on how you're gonna fix it to get back.

(btw, didn't see this response until just now)
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Originally Posted by JeepCoMJ

the goal is to make it there and back...not to make it there, have fun, and scratch your head on how you're gonna fix it to get back.
im sorry pat but thats funny. just ask your bent HP30 why...
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im sorry pat but thats funny. just ask your bent HP30 why...

did I scratch my head at all? was I worried? was it a big deal?

...that's a big fat no...still drove it home, was only a week before it was fixed, and it was free

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Everything that i have ever seen is saying small blocks are fine, even though i have rana 5.5" block on the rear of an 84 k5 with a turboed 6.2 diesel and never had a problem, lots of trucks come from the factory with blocks, gm's, super dutys, all springs will sag sooner or later, gravity always wins,ut you get what you pay for, aal will beat you to death i've tryed them on 3 diffrent trucks(99 1500 chevy, 03 toy tacoma, 97 xj) and im never happy with them and i have removed them on all 3, i've found for a good cheep lift the best is a longer shackle, plus a shackle rolls the axle up to reduce drive line angle. this is all just IMO.

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Originally Posted by Beachjeep97
Everything thati have ever seen is saying small blocks are fine, lots of trucks come from the factory with blocks, gm's, super dutys, all springs will sag sooner or later, gravity always wins, aal will beat you to death i've tryed them on 3 diffrent trucks(99 1500 chevy, 03 toy tacoma, 97 xj) and im never happy with them and i have removed them on all 3, i've found for a good cheep lift the best is a longer shackle, plus a shackle rolls the axle up to reduce drive line angle. this is all just IMO.
You should try one more AAL. The old man emu AAL. It's not even an AAL but it works the same way as an AAL, just not stiff like an AAL. It nets you an inch or two and increases your spring rate a little but doesn't roughen up the ride like an AAL. I ran TWO sets of old man emu AAL's in their own spring packs and it was pretty darn nice. Not stiff like that damn RC AAL i used first.

Did i say AAL enough?
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Originally Posted by JeepCoMJ
did I scratch my head at all? was I worried? was it a big deal?

...that's a big fat no...still drove it home, was only a week before it was fixed, and it was free

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Originally Posted by JeepCoMJ
not sure I understand what you're sayin
sorry never mind
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Originally Posted by muddeprived
You should try one more AAL. The old man emu AAL. It's not even an AAL but it works the same way as an AAL, just not stiff like an AAL. It nets you an inch or two and increases your spring rate a little but doesn't roughen up the ride like an AAL. I ran TWO sets of old man emu AAL's in their own spring packs and it was pretty darn nice. Not stiff like that damn RC AAL i used first.

Did i say AAL enough?
I never tried those before, I had a fabtech on the 1500, a skyjacker on the tacoma, and the rough country on my xj, maybe next time w the emu's
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Originally Posted by Beachjeep97
I never tried those before, I had a fabtech on the 1500, a skyjacker on the tacoma, and the rough country on my xj, maybe next time w the emu's
Those are all the super-thick AAL's. I just took one pair out of my leaf pack to lower it down from 5" to 3.5" and I'm selling the pair I took off right now.
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Originally Posted by muddeprived
Those are all the super-thick AAL's. I just took one pair out of my leaf pack to lower it down from 5" to 3.5" and I'm selling the pair I took off right now.
Do you mean the shorter style that sort of looks like an overload leaf? If so, those things are even more worthless than typical AAL's and work like crap if you have a weak spring pack.
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Originally Posted by 94CountryXJ
Do you mean the shorter style that sort of looks like an overload leaf? If so, those things are even more worthless than typical AAL's and work like crap if you have a weak spring pack.
Nah the full-length thick AAL's. I wouldn't go near the short ones. Those are the most retarded springs ever made LOL. My OME aal's are the same thickness as the main leaf in the stock xj packs, which is why they don't make the ride so harsh. They "compliment" the pack, not work against it like traditional AAL's.

Here's a pix of them.



This picture shows my leaf pack with two ome AAL's. The 2nd and 3rd from the top are the AAL's. They are all the same thickness.



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