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Old 01-06-2011 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jeepkid46
Ox is a real locker
Didn't say Ox Lockers were not real lockers, didn't say they were not full lockers.
djb, most people know that a lunch box or drop in locker replaces the spider gears, while a locker that replaces the carrier is called a full locker. I'm pretty sure you already knew this, right.
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Originally Posted by Rock Toy

Didn't say Ox Lockers were not real lockers, didn't say they were not full lockers.
djb, most people know that a lunch box or drop in locker replaces the spider gears, while a locker that replaces the carrier is called a full locker. I'm pretty sure you already knew this, right.
I was just saying in case abyone didnt know i never said you didnt say that whatever djb means
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Originally Posted by jeepkid46
I was just saying in case abyone didnt know i never said you didnt say that whatever djb means
Sorry, I guess that I assumed you were addressing your post to me since you didn't state otherwise.

djb383, posted on this thread also, asking what a full locker was, so I just responded to both, guess I should have done a better job of separating the answers. ( pretty sure he was just pulling my leg )
Old 01-06-2011 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnie_K
full lockers makes sure the wheels always turn at the same speed. An Aussie locker makes sure that one wheel can never spin slower than the driven wheel, so it will always spin both, but still allows the outside wheel to coast faster around turns on pavement.
This isn't entirely correct. With an Aussie locker, when it locks. It is locked just like any other full carrier locker. When no torque is applied, it is 100% open.
Old 01-06-2011 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by lancec2c30
This isn't entirely correct. With an Aussie locker, when it locks. It is locked just like any other full carrier locker. When no torque is applied, it is 100% open.
REALLY!? That seems way easier and cheaper anyone have any feedback before I pay twice as much and spend more time on the install?
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An Aussie locker is what is called a lunch box type locker, they replace the spider gears in the differential inside the carrier. They are easier to install because you don't have to mess with the ring and pinion to install them like you do with a full carrier locker.
You said you are going to change gears, so changing to a full carrier locker will not be any harder than installing a lunch box locker, and they are stronger in general than a lunch box type.

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Originally Posted by Rock Toy
Sorry, I guess that I assumed you were addressing your post to me since you didn't state otherwise.

djb383, posted on this thread also, asking what a full locker was, so I just responded to both, guess I should have done a better job of separating the answers. ( pretty sure he was just pulling my leg )
Hey Rock, no way I'd pull your leg but I might jerk your chain a little (LOL)......u are a biker dude, right?

I just look at it as bare bones simple - 3 basic types of differentials: open, limited slip and locking. There are numerous sub types of limited slips and numerous sub types of locking diffs. Some folks may, could, might read/interpret "full locker" as in maybe there is such an animal as a "partial locker" as well........but that's not the case. Ride on.
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Originally Posted by djb383

I just look at it as bare bones simple - 3 basic types of differentials: open, limited slip and locking. There are numerous sub types of limited slips and numerous sub types of locking diffs. Some folks may, could, might read/interpret "full locker" as in maybe there is such an animal as a "partial locker" as well........but that's not the case. Ride on.
Well, you could call a lunchbox locker a partial locker because of how it engages. And something like a spool a full locker.

But that's really just pulling hairs...
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Originally Posted by djb383
Hey Rock, no way I'd pull your leg but I might jerk your chain a little (LOL)......u are a biker dude, right?


I just look at it as bare bones simple - 3 basic types of differentials: open, limited slip and locking. There are numerous sub types of limited slips and numerous sub types of locking diffs. Some folks may, could, might read/interpret "full locker" as in maybe there is such an animal as a "partial locker" as well........but that's not the case. Ride on.
Yep, I do ride some but now it is snow time here.
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There's this one company, Lincoln electric, they make good lockers. Weld them suckers up. But that's only good for a dedicated trail rig on a budget. Not good for dd use
Haha this is what I lik to hear
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Originally Posted by N20jeep
Well, you could call a lunchbox locker a partial locker because of how it engages. And something like a spool a full locker.

But that's really just pulling hairs...
Yep, that's splittin' hairs alright.......a locker is either locked or unlocked, ain't no partially to it. There's several ways/types of engaging a locker but again, it's either locked or unlocked.....a lunchbox just engages/disengages automatically (differentiates), not partially. In the loosest/broadest since of the term, I'd say a spool could be a FULL TIME locker but definitely not a differential.
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Originally Posted by Rock Toy
Yep, I do ride some but now it is snow time here.
......light weight.
Old 01-06-2011 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnie_K
Pair of Aussie lockers and some 4.88 gears would do you solid.
Win

this is the way to go right here.
the only way to make it better is to buy a detroit instead of an aussie
Old 01-07-2011 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by djb383
......light weight.
No, the problem is my Royal Star Venture is 890 with fuel and oil, not something you want on top of you in the snow.
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