Advice on gears and lockers
#16
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Didn't say Ox Lockers were not real lockers, didn't say they were not full lockers.
djb, most people know that a lunch box or drop in locker replaces the spider gears, while a locker that replaces the carrier is called a full locker. I'm pretty sure you already knew this, right.
djb, most people know that a lunch box or drop in locker replaces the spider gears, while a locker that replaces the carrier is called a full locker. I'm pretty sure you already knew this, right.
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Originally Posted by Rock Toy
Didn't say Ox Lockers were not real lockers, didn't say they were not full lockers.
djb, most people know that a lunch box or drop in locker replaces the spider gears, while a locker that replaces the carrier is called a full locker. I'm pretty sure you already knew this, right.
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From: Cove, OR
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djb383, posted on this thread also, asking what a full locker was, so I just responded to both, guess I should have done a better job of separating the answers. ( pretty sure he was just pulling my leg )
#19
This isn't entirely correct. With an Aussie locker, when it locks. It is locked just like any other full carrier locker. When no torque is applied, it is 100% open.
#20
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REALLY!? That seems way easier and cheaper anyone have any feedback before I pay twice as much and spend more time on the install?
#21
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An Aussie locker is what is called a lunch box type locker, they replace the spider gears in the differential inside the carrier. They are easier to install because you don't have to mess with the ring and pinion to install them like you do with a full carrier locker.
You said you are going to change gears, so changing to a full carrier locker will not be any harder than installing a lunch box locker, and they are stronger in general than a lunch box type.
You said you are going to change gears, so changing to a full carrier locker will not be any harder than installing a lunch box locker, and they are stronger in general than a lunch box type.
Last edited by Rock Toy; 01-06-2011 at 04:24 PM.
#22
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Sorry, I guess that I assumed you were addressing your post to me since you didn't state otherwise.
djb383, posted on this thread also, asking what a full locker was, so I just responded to both, guess I should have done a better job of separating the answers. ( pretty sure he was just pulling my leg )
djb383, posted on this thread also, asking what a full locker was, so I just responded to both, guess I should have done a better job of separating the answers. ( pretty sure he was just pulling my leg )
I just look at it as bare bones simple - 3 basic types of differentials: open, limited slip and locking. There are numerous sub types of limited slips and numerous sub types of locking diffs. Some folks may, could, might read/interpret "full locker" as in maybe there is such an animal as a "partial locker" as well........but that's not the case. Ride on.
#23
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Originally Posted by djb383
I just look at it as bare bones simple - 3 basic types of differentials: open, limited slip and locking. There are numerous sub types of limited slips and numerous sub types of locking diffs. Some folks may, could, might read/interpret "full locker" as in maybe there is such an animal as a "partial locker" as well........but that's not the case. Ride on.
But that's really just pulling hairs...
#24
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From: Cove, OR
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Hey Rock, no way I'd pull your leg but I might jerk your chain a little (LOL)......u are a biker dude, right?
I just look at it as bare bones simple - 3 basic types of differentials: open, limited slip and locking. There are numerous sub types of limited slips and numerous sub types of locking diffs. Some folks may, could, might read/interpret "full locker" as in maybe there is such an animal as a "partial locker" as well........but that's not the case. Ride on.
I just look at it as bare bones simple - 3 basic types of differentials: open, limited slip and locking. There are numerous sub types of limited slips and numerous sub types of locking diffs. Some folks may, could, might read/interpret "full locker" as in maybe there is such an animal as a "partial locker" as well........but that's not the case. Ride on.
#25
Originally Posted by DeathWobble
There's this one company, Lincoln electric, they make good lockers. Weld them suckers up. But that's only good for a dedicated trail rig on a budget. Not good for dd use
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Yep, that's splittin' hairs alright.......a locker is either locked or unlocked, ain't no partially to it. There's several ways/types of engaging a locker but again, it's either locked or unlocked.....a lunchbox just engages/disengages automatically (differentiates), not partially. In the loosest/broadest since of the term, I'd say a spool could be a FULL TIME locker but definitely not a differential.
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