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Old 11-06-2011 | 09:14 AM
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So I did a fluid change on my ax-15. went smooth besides spilling gear fluid all over the driveway (my mistake). Finished up, cleaned up and drove it around the block. shifted smooth everything went great. This morning i went and fired it up to drive down to the gas station and my clutch was making grinding noises when I fully depressed the petal. THIS WAS NOT THERE BEFORE! did I do something wrong?? or did fate just curse me to have to do a clutch job?
Old 11-06-2011 | 09:40 AM
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coincidence; oil inside the trans doesn't get on the throw out bearing (at least it better not if you want yor clutch to last) and this sounds to me like a throwout bearing sort of noise.
It could though be the mainshaft input bearing, but as long as enough oil got in the tranny vs on the driveway then I doubt it. I usually pull the shifter and pour the new fluid thru there, leaving the sid eplug out just for a "level indicator" for the fluid.
Old 11-06-2011 | 10:53 AM
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This is a video of the noise. you should hear a grinding/ chattering besides my 4.0 rattling.

http://youtu.be/_2aQgwy_OdU
Old 11-06-2011 | 10:54 AM
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If it's a throw bearing then need that replaced along with the clutch
Old 11-06-2011 | 10:59 AM
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and i checked the fluid level this morning and it was fine. it was parked on the side of the street (grade of the road is towards the curb) so i was able to put a little more fluid in there just to be safe.
Old 11-06-2011 | 08:14 PM
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What oil did you put back into the trans? The noise is coming from the trans, or engine, and not from the clutch.
Old 11-06-2011 | 11:08 PM
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I had a mechanic buddy look up what its supposed to have and according to their program at his shop (alldata) it said 75w-90 GL5 with absolutely no exceptions, so that's what i put in.
Old 11-06-2011 | 11:49 PM
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I had a mechanic buddy look up what its supposed to have and according to their program at his shop (alldata) it said 75w-90 GL5 with absolutely no exceptions, so that's what i put in.
This is wrong on multiple levels. First, GL5 will eat up your brass synchronizer rings. Second, it calls for 10W-30. Sounds dumb, yes, but I have checked with Chrysler for my 91 XJ and my buddy's 97 TJ.
Old 11-07-2011 | 09:42 AM
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Yea everywhere you go it will say GL5, which is the standard gear oil standard now. I opted for fully synthetic 75w-90 and it works much better.

But probably a clutch issue
Old 11-07-2011 | 06:19 PM
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ok i called 2 different transmission shops and my local MOPAR service center and they all sayed that i have the right fluid in there. so i am going to stick with the 75w-90. I am also going to take my xj to one of these tranny shops which does a free evaluation. this will tell me if its a clutch, throwout bearing, or something goofy in the trans.
Old 11-07-2011 | 07:03 PM
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Improper oil in the trans will usually only cause hard shifting. Unless the noise was while putting it in gear, it probably isn't that.

That said, GL-5 should NOT be in an ax-15. Believe what you want, but GL-5 has sulphur as a high pressure additive, and sulphur eats yellow metal, such as brass. Which your ax-15 has in it.

Search the internet (I did it a few months ago when I was changing mine for the first time), half say 10w30 half say GL-3 or GL-4 gear oil. But the consensus is GL-5 is NOT acceptable, and there a countless people that will tell you they switched to GL-5, had HORRIBLE shifts, switched to something else and all the problems went away.
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I went with 10w30 after calling Chrysler and largely because GL4 was literally impossible to find at any parts store near me.
Old 11-07-2011 | 08:56 PM
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10-30 and 75-90 gear oil aren't too different in viscosity. As noted, the sulfur in gl5 is the problem with older trannys that use brass parts.

I will also agree that this is not the problem with the noises you are having. The brass breaks down slowly over time and will cause synchronizer problems.
Old 11-08-2011 | 07:15 AM
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Pennzoil Synchormesh gear oil (yellow bottle) is yellow metal safe and that is what I run in mine. It was hard to find but I bought enough from few stores.
Old 11-10-2011 | 07:21 AM
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so the noise has been solved. i took my xj to a transmission shop and they discovered that the bellhousing bolts were stripped out, or loose. when i pushed on the clutch it was pushing the transmission 1/4 of an inch away from the engine. so they put new bolts in and snugged everything up and it runs great again!
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