BAD Braking Issue
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From: Fauquier County, Virginia
Year: 1991
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Engine: I-6 4.0 HO
BAD Braking Issue
I was drivin my XJ to work one day (hot, about 90*) and my brake pedal became stiff and did not want to go down properly, and the left-front wheel wasn't releasing, pullin me left. After work and today, she drove all nice and happy. Would a bad caliper cause this? And if so, should I replace both calipers and brake pads?
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From: Northern Ontario, Canada
Year: 1990, 1999, 2000
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usually if the pedal goes hard, it's the vac hose on the booster to the manifold.
but the pulling would be a caliper seizing up. usually if it pulls to the left, it's the right caliper seized open.
start by checking the vac hose, then pull the calipers off and grease the slide pins. if that doesn't do it, it could be the piston seized and easier to replace the calipers.
but the pulling would be a caliper seizing up. usually if it pulls to the left, it's the right caliper seized open.
start by checking the vac hose, then pull the calipers off and grease the slide pins. if that doesn't do it, it could be the piston seized and easier to replace the calipers.
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From: Oroville, CA
Year: 1995
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 with all of the noise and clatter
Is this a 91 with ABS? If so, I bet your ABS booster is starting to fail. It was a very bad system and very hard to find GOOD replacement parts for. They were such a problem and had so many recalls , Chrysler only used that setup for a couple of years. You can convert it to a vacuum booster system for the cost of repairing the junk ABS system. My guess would be for the hard pedal is that the motor that builds pressure in the accumulator is going bad, or has a bad electrical connection.
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From: Fauquier County, Virginia
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usually if the pedal goes hard, it's the vac hose on the booster to the manifold.
but the pulling would be a caliper seizing up. usually if it pulls to the left, it's the right caliper seized open.
start by checking the vac hose, then pull the calipers off and grease the slide pins. if that doesn't do it, it could be the piston seized and easier to replace the calipers.
but the pulling would be a caliper seizing up. usually if it pulls to the left, it's the right caliper seized open.
start by checking the vac hose, then pull the calipers off and grease the slide pins. if that doesn't do it, it could be the piston seized and easier to replace the calipers.
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From: Hollidaysburg, PA
Year: 1990
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Engine: 4.0 lt. 242 cu.in.
I was drivin my XJ to work one day (hot, about 90*) and my brake pedal became stiff and did not want to go down properly, and the left-front wheel wasn't releasing, pullin me left. After work and today, she drove all nice and happy. Would a bad caliper cause this? And if so, should I replace both calipers and brake pads?
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ok, it's not really a must, but it is highly recommended to replace both calipers at the same time. and by the sound of it, you should replace them anyways.
however, if you have the ABS system in your jeep, you won't have the booster hose.
if no ABS, then the hose goes from the brake booster to the intake manifold. black hose about an inch in diameter.
however, if you have the ABS system in your jeep, you won't have the booster hose.
if no ABS, then the hose goes from the brake booster to the intake manifold. black hose about an inch in diameter.
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From: Fauquier County, Virginia
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I don't think I have ABS. I never really feel a pulsing or vibration when braking, plus I have the whole big black thing behind the brake fluid resovoir (im not tech savy, but I assume this big black thing is the booster?) Also, so far no other braking issues, however it does seem to want and try to catch.. I never really have a stiff pedal, but it seems to want to hesitate for a fraction of a second. This didn't happen until I drove in the heat and the engine was wanting to run warm (not red, but near the last white line.. Im replacing my stock e-fan with a '97 fan for better cfm and I want to switch the relay to switch on at about 211*) Would the heat have caused the failure of old calipers? And after I find the hose, do I just look at it for cracks or holes or such?
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ok, it's not really a must, but it is highly recommended to replace both calipers at the same time. and by the sound of it, you should replace them anyways.
however, if you have the ABS system in your jeep, you won't have the booster hose.
if no ABS, then the hose goes from the brake booster to the intake manifold. black hose about an inch in diameter.
however, if you have the ABS system in your jeep, you won't have the booster hose.
if no ABS, then the hose goes from the brake booster to the intake manifold. black hose about an inch in diameter.
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yes, it is highly recommended. but, if only one is seized and the other functions perfectly fine, you can get away with even a junk yard replacement.
but if funds can afford it, replace both with remans. they are only about 30 bucks each anyways.
now get-r-dun
but if funds can afford it, replace both with remans. they are only about 30 bucks each anyways.
now get-r-dun
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Guys, I work in a shop, it is almost NEVER a caliper issue. The only caliper issues I see is leaking around the piston. 9 times out of 10 it is a rubber hose. Take the wheels off and try to push piston of caliper in. If it is hard, crack the bleeder lose and try again. If the piston is easy to push in then it is a hose. If it is hard to push in still then it is a caliper
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Before you just throw parts at it get a buddy have them press down on the brakes and try to bleed the lines if you cant get a big jet of fluid from one side it could be your brake hose on the side that dosnt squirt out
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Guys, I work in a shop, it is almost NEVER a caliper issue. The only caliper issues I see is leaking around the piston. 9 times out of 10 it is a rubber hose. Take the wheels off and try to push piston of caliper in. If it is hard, crack the bleeder lose and try again. If the piston is easy to push in then it is a hose. If it is hard to push in still then it is a caliper
srry for the repeat of your post didnt read the hole page b4 i posted
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