Best Budget Steering Upgrades?
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They are just another house brand, I believe auto value/bumper to bumper auto parts owns the Parts Master name. Probably no better or worse than any other store brand. I'd probably run them on a street Jeep but go for Moog or another first-tier name for offroad or heavy duty use.
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I replaced all my steering with auto parts store replacements (AutoZone and O'Reilly).
The ZJ tie rod is a definite upgrade. The adjuster sleeve and TRE on the driver side and at the pitman arm are the same (only if you do the ZJ upgrade). The drag link is the same for XJ, ZJ and TJ. The XJ and TJ share the same tie rod and TRE where the ZJ will be an upgraded part.
There isn't much to the steering system, and with it being a daily and not lifted I don't see a reason to put a $400 steering system in there. Or a Durango box either.
I do have one suggestion though. Do not buy the TRE or adjuster sleeves from O'Reilly Auto. I have replaced the pitman arm side twice already and their adjuster sleeve keeps rusting from the outside in. I have since switched it with the sleeve and TRE from AutoZone (same part, lifetime warranty). Also, I have replaced my drag link from AutoZone three times over the year. But I do wheel mine and I don't think their parts can handle it. The warranty comes in handy, but it does get annoying replacing parts that shouldn't need to be replaced. If possible, buy Moog.
The ZJ tie rod is a definite upgrade. The adjuster sleeve and TRE on the driver side and at the pitman arm are the same (only if you do the ZJ upgrade). The drag link is the same for XJ, ZJ and TJ. The XJ and TJ share the same tie rod and TRE where the ZJ will be an upgraded part.
There isn't much to the steering system, and with it being a daily and not lifted I don't see a reason to put a $400 steering system in there. Or a Durango box either.
I do have one suggestion though. Do not buy the TRE or adjuster sleeves from O'Reilly Auto. I have replaced the pitman arm side twice already and their adjuster sleeve keeps rusting from the outside in. I have since switched it with the sleeve and TRE from AutoZone (same part, lifetime warranty). Also, I have replaced my drag link from AutoZone three times over the year. But I do wheel mine and I don't think their parts can handle it. The warranty comes in handy, but it does get annoying replacing parts that shouldn't need to be replaced. If possible, buy Moog.
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I replaced all my steering with auto parts store replacements (AutoZone and O'Reilly).
The ZJ tie rod is a definite upgrade. The adjuster sleeve and TRE on the driver side and at the pitman arm are the same (only if you do the ZJ upgrade). The drag link is the same for XJ, ZJ and TJ. The XJ and TJ share the same tie rod and TRE where the ZJ will be an upgraded part.
There isn't much to the steering system, and with it being a daily and not lifted I don't see a reason to put a $400 steering system in there. Or a Durango box either.
I do have one suggestion though. Do not buy the TRE or adjuster sleeves from O'Reilly Auto. I have replaced the pitman arm side twice already and their adjuster sleeve keeps rusting from the outside in. I have since switched it with the sleeve and TRE from AutoZone (same part, lifetime warranty). Also, I have replaced my drag link from AutoZone three times over the year. But I do wheel mine and I don't think their parts can handle it. The warranty comes in handy, but it does get annoying replacing parts that shouldn't need to be replaced. If possible, buy Moog.
The ZJ tie rod is a definite upgrade. The adjuster sleeve and TRE on the driver side and at the pitman arm are the same (only if you do the ZJ upgrade). The drag link is the same for XJ, ZJ and TJ. The XJ and TJ share the same tie rod and TRE where the ZJ will be an upgraded part.
There isn't much to the steering system, and with it being a daily and not lifted I don't see a reason to put a $400 steering system in there. Or a Durango box either.
I do have one suggestion though. Do not buy the TRE or adjuster sleeves from O'Reilly Auto. I have replaced the pitman arm side twice already and their adjuster sleeve keeps rusting from the outside in. I have since switched it with the sleeve and TRE from AutoZone (same part, lifetime warranty). Also, I have replaced my drag link from AutoZone three times over the year. But I do wheel mine and I don't think their parts can handle it. The warranty comes in handy, but it does get annoying replacing parts that shouldn't need to be replaced. If possible, buy Moog.
I got quoted 650 at oreillys but the quote seemed weird to me.
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I just did the steering. I pulled the axle yesterday to replace the UCA bushings and remove the old arms. I haven't done the ball joints or u joints yet, bit those are on my list.
I think the steering was around $120 or so. The ZJ tie rod is the most expensive part.
I think the steering was around $120 or so. The ZJ tie rod is the most expensive part.
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Ah, I just went back and re-read, you did indeed adjust the box and the slop remained.
You need a new steering box. It's worn beyond adjustment.
Skip the Durango box, for your purposes the OEM box is just fine and simpler to install.
Are your tie rod ends OK or are they shot? I usually grab them while having someone turn the wheel back and forth. You'l be able to feel any unwanted side to side movement.
You need a new steering box. It's worn beyond adjustment.
Skip the Durango box, for your purposes the OEM box is just fine and simpler to install.
Are your tie rod ends OK or are they shot? I usually grab them while having someone turn the wheel back and forth. You'l be able to feel any unwanted side to side movement.
The part that wiggles is that steering shaft (I think it's called). I finally noticed when messing with the steering box.
So, whew that wasn't easy but you guys saved the day again. Thanks. I love this forum.
So, does anyone know if I need to replace anything else while I'm replacing the steering box?
Like maybe that shaft? Or some seals or something I'm unaware of? New bolts or something?
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They are just another house brand, I believe auto value/bumper to bumper auto parts owns the Parts Master name. Probably no better or worse than any other store brand. I'd probably run them on a street Jeep but go for Moog or another first-tier name for offroad or heavy duty use.
If I had the cash I might even make it a lowrider that can raise up or lower, ha. maybe even hop around.
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That's good to hear. Hey you guys would probably freak out to hear this but instead of lifting this Jeep I've been pondering actually trying to lower it a little, make it more stable on the highway.
If I had the cash I might even make it a lowrider that can raise up or lower, ha. maybe even hop around.
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That's good to hear. Hey you guys would probably freak out to hear this but instead of lifting this Jeep I've been pondering actually trying to lower it a little, make it more stable on the highway.
If I had the cash I might even make it a lowrider that can raise up or lower, ha. maybe even hop around.
If you had the cash to bag or hydro the XJ, please give me the XJ and mod a mini truck or full size. I would be glad to daily yours and finish mine lol
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lol, funny stuff. I'm kidding, don't worry. Knew that would freak you guys out.
But, (I'm not going to do it) I was wondering later on whether or not those hydraulics for the hopping cars might be useful for offroad vehicles too. Like, what if you got a little stuck and could raise or lower a part of the jeep? Or here's a funny thought, you could bounce your way out of trouble. hehe
But, (I'm not going to do it) I was wondering later on whether or not those hydraulics for the hopping cars might be useful for offroad vehicles too. Like, what if you got a little stuck and could raise or lower a part of the jeep? Or here's a funny thought, you could bounce your way out of trouble. hehe
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Steering shaft connects the end of the column to the steering box. There are some joints and a collapsible section in the shaft, is that loose? There should not be any slop in the steering shaft, movement at the steering wheel should carry down to the steering box input exactly. The plastic collapsible section has been known to wear out and get loose, often makes a popping sound when you turn that you can feel in the steering wheel. The joints can also wear. Might be worth a once-over if you are seeing wiggling there.
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Steering shaft connects the end of the column to the steering box. There are some joints and a collapsible section in the shaft, is that loose? There should not be any slop in the steering shaft, movement at the steering wheel should carry down to the steering box input exactly. The plastic collapsible section has been known to wear out and get loose, often makes a popping sound when you turn that you can feel in the steering wheel. The joints can also wear. Might be worth a once-over if you are seeing wiggling there.
Thank you Radi, so (I'll have to check for sure later on) does that mean that we might be able to just replace the shaft? Or, the worn out bits? Ha, I didn't notice anything plastic on it when I last looked. Maybe it fell off. I'll be able to check once the wife gets home and I'll let y'all know.
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That's exactly what's happening with the popping, and it feels like it kind of "slips" when it pops as my wife described it.
Thank you Radi, so (I'll have to check for sure later on) does that mean that we might be able to just replace the shaft? Or, the worn out bits? Ha, I didn't notice anything plastic on it when I last looked. Maybe it fell off. I'll be able to check once the wife gets home and I'll let y'all know.
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That's exactly what's happening with the popping, and it feels like it kind of "slips" when it pops as my wife described it.
Thank you Radi, so (I'll have to check for sure later on) does that mean that we might be able to just replace the shaft? Or, the worn out bits? Ha, I didn't notice anything plastic on it when I last looked. Maybe it fell off. I'll be able to check once the wife gets home and I'll let y'all know.