blowing smoke?
#32
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From: Landers, CA
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smoking out the tailpipe?
when? idle, cruise, accelerating, decelerating, all the time?
always, sometimes?
cold, hot etc
The valve cover?
just from underneath
how many miles driven since lowering the oil level?
all have a bearing on what to look for or test.
when? idle, cruise, accelerating, decelerating, all the time?
always, sometimes?
cold, hot etc
The valve cover?
just from underneath
how many miles driven since lowering the oil level?
all have a bearing on what to look for or test.
#33
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If you power brake it with the rad full, and the cap off, and it bubbles, not good. (combustion gasses are passing into the water jacket). Steam won't "hang", on a warm day, but might in the cold AM. Oil smoke will hang allot more, cold or hot out.
Just thiken...if you fix the oil leaks, (which you probably want to do anyway), then you can focus on where the smoke (from the pipe), is coming from. Once I had a valve cover gasket leak to where some got into the intake manifold. I know likely it's not that, probably stem seals or rings, but no reason not to fix the leaks, then be sure something else is not tricking you.
Once it'd been run good and long, looking at the color of the plug porcelain, along with the other posters info above might be an idea. Black white, even?
How many miles also
Just thiken...if you fix the oil leaks, (which you probably want to do anyway), then you can focus on where the smoke (from the pipe), is coming from. Once I had a valve cover gasket leak to where some got into the intake manifold. I know likely it's not that, probably stem seals or rings, but no reason not to fix the leaks, then be sure something else is not tricking you.
Once it'd been run good and long, looking at the color of the plug porcelain, along with the other posters info above might be an idea. Black white, even?
How many miles also
#35
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I'm getting real close to unsubscribing from this thread.
#36
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Year: 1989
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Originally Posted by rrich
smoking out the tailpipe?
when? idle, cruise, accelerating, decelerating, all the time?
always, sometimes?
cold, hot etc
The valve cover?
just from underneath
how many miles driven since lowering the oil level?
all have a bearing on what to look for or test.
when? idle, cruise, accelerating, decelerating, all the time?
always, sometimes?
cold, hot etc
The valve cover?
just from underneath
how many miles driven since lowering the oil level?
all have a bearing on what to look for or test.
Its seems to be smoking right as u start it up and keeps smoking a little more as it warms up
I drained maybe a quart out but i drive short distances to home and work so ive only put like 15 miles but thats back and fourth 3-4 times
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You've answered 2 questons now. What about the others?
#38
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From: Landers, CA
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You asked for help - but we cannot help you if you don't give us the information we need to help!
15 miles short trips is not enough - you have to get it HOT to burn the oil out of the exhaust system!
Take it for a long drive on the hiway - get 100-200 miles on it. Then come back on this thread to tell how it fares.
But we can't help if you don't help us help you - you have to do as we say - or like it like it as it is! --- else YOU are the one blowing smoke!
Don't want help? Don't ask!
15 miles short trips is not enough - you have to get it HOT to burn the oil out of the exhaust system!
Take it for a long drive on the hiway - get 100-200 miles on it. Then come back on this thread to tell how it fares.
But we can't help if you don't help us help you - you have to do as we say - or like it like it as it is! --- else YOU are the one blowing smoke!
Don't want help? Don't ask!
Last edited by rrich; 09-22-2012 at 11:59 AM.
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#40
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From: phoenix az
Year: 1989
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Well I replaced my oil pan gasket and put the new oil and its smoking so bad as if while it idles the oil fills into the cylinder an wen gas it a bunch of smoke blows out of the exhaust
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The there must be something more wrong than just it having to much oil in it and it havong to burn the **** in the exhaust out because its smoking bad
#43
well bought my second cherokee from a guy at work and its smoking white smoke the only thing i could figure is that wen he asked his wife to top the oil off because it has a bad oil pan gasket leak and she put two quarts of oil in that it has way to much oil in it
is that the only thing that would white smoke i tried draining some and its still smoking a tad bit
wen checking the dip stick its not really that much to high if any..,
please any input would be great
is that the only thing that would white smoke i tried draining some and its still smoking a tad bit
wen checking the dip stick its not really that much to high if any..,
please any input would be great
Now if it was run completely dry of say coolant & oil, then put up for sale, well then.........
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Originally Posted by Turbo X_J
This is the part that scares me. Do you know the guys wife, what did she put in where? Do you know how huge the crankcase is on that 4.0, you could probably put 20 quarts of oil in there.
Now if it was run completely dry of say coolant & oil, then put up for sale, well then.........
Now if it was run completely dry of say coolant & oil, then put up for sale, well then.........
#45
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From: Landers, CA
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If as you say it's getting into a cylinder - pull the plugs - it'll be very obvious.
I Still think your exhaust system has oil in it - it has to get hot for a long period of time to burn it off. Running it in your driveway and doing short trips does't get it hot enough. It'll take YEARS like that.
As little as a teaspoon will make huge clouds for a looooong time.
You never did answer if you have lots of blowby.
Try taking loose the tailpipe from the exhaust manifold - push it to the side so the exhaust stream doesn't go down the exhaust pipe. Run the engine to find out if the smoke is truly coming from the engine, not the exhaust system.
But - you can always do as others say - spend bookoo $ on a rebuild you may not need, the economy needs your money more than you do.
I Still think your exhaust system has oil in it - it has to get hot for a long period of time to burn it off. Running it in your driveway and doing short trips does't get it hot enough. It'll take YEARS like that.
As little as a teaspoon will make huge clouds for a looooong time.
You never did answer if you have lots of blowby.
Try taking loose the tailpipe from the exhaust manifold - push it to the side so the exhaust stream doesn't go down the exhaust pipe. Run the engine to find out if the smoke is truly coming from the engine, not the exhaust system.
But - you can always do as others say - spend bookoo $ on a rebuild you may not need, the economy needs your money more than you do.
Last edited by rrich; 09-23-2012 at 07:54 PM.