Changed fuses now new issues
08-04-2012, 01:02 PM
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Pop in when your schedule allows...that's what the rest of us do. The multifunction switch has separate switches inside, the fact that the high beams, wipers, etc work does not mean the turn signal portion works. The only thing they share is the plastic stalk.
Since your hazard lights work, I'd start by replacing the turn signal flasher...the little round can that someone posted a picture of earlier. It's cheap and simple to change.
If that doesn't fix it, the next thing to do is remove the multifunction switch and start measuring voltages at the plug. Or just swap it with a known good part.
08-04-2012, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by F1Addict
...and your blinkers worked before you removed that wire and swapped the fuses so I agree with both you and odgreen, I don't think it's your multi-switch. Which looks like this, btw...
08-04-2012, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Radi
So do most of us.
Pop in when your schedule allows...that's what the rest of us do.The multifunction switch has separate switches inside, the fact that the high beams, wipers, etc work does not mean the turn signal portion works. The only thing they share is the plastic stalk.
Since your hazard lights work, I'd start by replacing the turn signal flasher...the little round can that someone posted a picture of earlier. It's cheap and simple to change.
If that doesn't fix it, the next thing to do is remove the multifunction switch and start measuring voltages at the plug. Or just swap it with a known good part.
08-04-2012, 03:13 PM
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I would remove the fuse block and check the rear for more corrosion and bad connections. Replacing the fuses could have dislodged something that was only held together by the "Grace of...
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08-04-2012, 04:48 PM
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So do most of us. Pop in when your schedule allows...that's what the rest of us do.
The multifunction switch has separate switches inside, the fact that the high beams, wipers, etc work does not mean the turn signal portion works. The only thing they share is the plastic stalk.
Since your hazard lights work, I'd start by replacing the turn signal flasher...the little round can that someone posted a picture of earlier. It's cheap and simple to change.
If that doesn't fix it, the next thing to do is remove the multifunction switch and start measuring voltages at the plug. Or just swap it with a known good part.
Pop in when your schedule allows...that's what the rest of us do. The multifunction switch has separate switches inside, the fact that the high beams, wipers, etc work does not mean the turn signal portion works. The only thing they share is the plastic stalk.
Since your hazard lights work, I'd start by replacing the turn signal flasher...the little round can that someone posted a picture of earlier. It's cheap and simple to change.
If that doesn't fix it, the next thing to do is remove the multifunction switch and start measuring voltages at the plug. Or just swap it with a known good part.
08-04-2012, 06:13 PM
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I would remove the fuse block and check the rear for more corrosion and bad connections. Replacing the fuses could have dislodged something that was only held together by the "Grace of...
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08-04-2012, 08:20 PM
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Sorry, but where does it make the split from one into two cicuits. I am thinking the only thing that was touched was the fuse block. Then the probs started. I'll be quite and watch for the resolution.
08-04-2012, 10:10 PM
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Alright, FirstJeep, I spent my Saturday afternoon researching this for you just because I think you're cool for working on your own truck.
Your fuse block looks similar (maybe a little different, this one is two years newer) to this. The turn indicator relay is the one flashing (brilliant, right?)...
You will notice that there are two contacts behind that relay. One of them is a +12v supply which comes from the "Turn B/U" fuse and the other is the "load" side that goes back to the multi-function switch.
You don't have a test light or a multi-meter so we'll use your turn indicators as a test light (you'll probably need someone to help you).
1. Pull the flasher relay from the socket.
2. Turn the ignition to the run position (but don't start the engine)
3. Place the turn signal stock in the down position as if you were making a left turn.
4. Using a paper clip or a piece of wire (or a bobby pin, whatever you have that's bare metal) short the two contacts in the flasher relay socket (red and green boxes shown above). You should see the left arrow light on your dash and both the front and rear amber lights should illuminate. If they do, try the same thing with the indicator stalk in the right turn position. If not, short between the green box and any fuse that is powered (radio, dome, bla bla bla) and see if your amber lights (and dash arrow) illuminate based on the position of the indicator stalk.
5. Report back to us with your results.
Your fuse block looks similar (maybe a little different, this one is two years newer) to this. The turn indicator relay is the one flashing (brilliant, right?)...
You will notice that there are two contacts behind that relay. One of them is a +12v supply which comes from the "Turn B/U" fuse and the other is the "load" side that goes back to the multi-function switch.
You don't have a test light or a multi-meter so we'll use your turn indicators as a test light (you'll probably need someone to help you).
1. Pull the flasher relay from the socket.
2. Turn the ignition to the run position (but don't start the engine)
3. Place the turn signal stock in the down position as if you were making a left turn.
4. Using a paper clip or a piece of wire (or a bobby pin, whatever you have that's bare metal) short the two contacts in the flasher relay socket (red and green boxes shown above). You should see the left arrow light on your dash and both the front and rear amber lights should illuminate. If they do, try the same thing with the indicator stalk in the right turn position. If not, short between the green box and any fuse that is powered (radio, dome, bla bla bla) and see if your amber lights (and dash arrow) illuminate based on the position of the indicator stalk.
5. Report back to us with your results.
08-04-2012, 11:05 PM
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Alright, FirstJeep, I spent my Saturday afternoon researching this for you just because I think you're cool for working on your own truck.
Your fuse block looks similar (maybe a little different, this one is two years newer) to this. The turn indicator relay is the one flashing (brilliant, right?)...
You will notice that there are two contacts behind that relay. One of them is a +12v supply which comes from the "Turn B/U" fuse and the other is the "load" side that goes back to the multi-function switch.
You don't have a test light or a multi-meter so we'll use your turn indicators as a test light (you'll probably need someone to help you).
1. Pull the flasher relay from the socket.
2. Turn the ignition to the run position (but don't start the engine)
3. Place the turn signal stock in the down position as if you were making a left turn.
4. Using a paper clip or a piece of wire (or a bobby pin, whatever you have that's bare metal) short the two contacts in the flasher relay socket (red and green boxes shown above). You should see the left arrow light on your dash and both the front and rear amber lights should illuminate. If they do, try the same thing with the indicator stalk in the right turn position. If not, short between the green box and any fuse that is powered (radio, dome, bla bla bla) and see if your amber lights (and dash arrow) illuminate based on the position of the indicator stalk.
5. Report back to us with your results.
Your fuse block looks similar (maybe a little different, this one is two years newer) to this. The turn indicator relay is the one flashing (brilliant, right?)...
You will notice that there are two contacts behind that relay. One of them is a +12v supply which comes from the "Turn B/U" fuse and the other is the "load" side that goes back to the multi-function switch.
You don't have a test light or a multi-meter so we'll use your turn indicators as a test light (you'll probably need someone to help you).
1. Pull the flasher relay from the socket.
2. Turn the ignition to the run position (but don't start the engine)
3. Place the turn signal stock in the down position as if you were making a left turn.
4. Using a paper clip or a piece of wire (or a bobby pin, whatever you have that's bare metal) short the two contacts in the flasher relay socket (red and green boxes shown above). You should see the left arrow light on your dash and both the front and rear amber lights should illuminate. If they do, try the same thing with the indicator stalk in the right turn position. If not, short between the green box and any fuse that is powered (radio, dome, bla bla bla) and see if your amber lights (and dash arrow) illuminate based on the position of the indicator stalk.
5. Report back to us with your results.
So I put the wire into both the red and green? And if it doesn't light up put the wire in the green and any fuse? Just trying to be 100% sure lol.
08-04-2012, 11:25 PM
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That is correct, use the wire to connect the red box to the green box. Remember, they won't flash, they'll just come on and stay on as long as you're shorting the contacts. Most of those fuses will be live (+12v) when the ignition is in the run position.
08-04-2012, 11:28 PM
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Remember to have the key in the run position and your blinker lever activated (either right or left, doesn't matter) when you short those two contacts.
I'll be watching here for your results and if none of those things work I have more stuff for you to troubleshoot.
I'll be watching here for your results and if none of those things work I have more stuff for you to troubleshoot.
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08-05-2012, 01:11 AM
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I would remove the fuse block and check the rear for more corrosion and bad connections. Replacing the fuses could have dislodged something that was only held together by the "Grace of...
FirstJeep87, welcome to the wonderful world of Jeep! Troubleshooting old vehicles is a pain sometimes. Especially when repairs start causing other issues. You'll get it, just takes perseverance.
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08-05-2012, 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by F1Addict
Alright, FirstJeep, I spent my Saturday afternoon researching this for you just because I think you're cool for working on your own truck.
Your fuse block looks similar (maybe a little different, this one is two years newer) to this. The turn indicator relay is the one flashing (brilliant, right?)...
You will notice that there are two contacts behind that relay. One of them is a +12v supply which comes from the "Turn B/U" fuse and the other is the "load" side that goes back to the multi-function switch.
You don't have a test light or a multi-meter so we'll use your turn indicators as a test light (you'll probably need someone to help you).
1. Pull the flasher relay from the socket.
2. Turn the ignition to the run position (but don't start the engine)
3. Place the turn signal stock in the down position as if you were making a left turn.
4. Using a paper clip or a piece of wire (or a bobby pin, whatever you have that's bare metal) short the two contacts in the flasher relay socket (red and green boxes shown above). You should see the left arrow light on your dash and both the front and rear amber lights should illuminate. If they do, try the same thing with the indicator stalk in the right turn position. If not, short between the green box and any fuse that is powered (radio, dome, bla bla bla) and see if your amber lights (and dash arrow) illuminate based on the position of the indicator stalk.
5. Report back to us with your results.
Your fuse block looks similar (maybe a little different, this one is two years newer) to this. The turn indicator relay is the one flashing (brilliant, right?)...
You will notice that there are two contacts behind that relay. One of them is a +12v supply which comes from the "Turn B/U" fuse and the other is the "load" side that goes back to the multi-function switch.
You don't have a test light or a multi-meter so we'll use your turn indicators as a test light (you'll probably need someone to help you).
1. Pull the flasher relay from the socket.
2. Turn the ignition to the run position (but don't start the engine)
3. Place the turn signal stock in the down position as if you were making a left turn.
4. Using a paper clip or a piece of wire (or a bobby pin, whatever you have that's bare metal) short the two contacts in the flasher relay socket (red and green boxes shown above). You should see the left arrow light on your dash and both the front and rear amber lights should illuminate. If they do, try the same thing with the indicator stalk in the right turn position. If not, short between the green box and any fuse that is powered (radio, dome, bla bla bla) and see if your amber lights (and dash arrow) illuminate based on the position of the indicator stalk.
5. Report back to us with your results.