Clutch Rattle??
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Clutch Rattle??
Hi All,
I need some help here. I was driving my XJ on the freeway yesterday and noticed a spinng/rattling sound coming from my car, almost like a baseball card that was clipped to a bicycle. I believe it's coming from the back of the engine/tranny area. The car runs great, compression is good, there is no sputter or misfire. It seems to get louder when I'm in 5th gear as I accelerate. I can feel a slight vibration from the gear shifter. I did do a clutch job on it about 2 years ago. Could it be my Throwout Bearing? I have a hard time getting in & out of gear sometimes and have to force it out of gear. It usually helps to wiggle the gear shifter a bit and then put it into gear. Help!
I need some help here. I was driving my XJ on the freeway yesterday and noticed a spinng/rattling sound coming from my car, almost like a baseball card that was clipped to a bicycle. I believe it's coming from the back of the engine/tranny area. The car runs great, compression is good, there is no sputter or misfire. It seems to get louder when I'm in 5th gear as I accelerate. I can feel a slight vibration from the gear shifter. I did do a clutch job on it about 2 years ago. Could it be my Throwout Bearing? I have a hard time getting in & out of gear sometimes and have to force it out of gear. It usually helps to wiggle the gear shifter a bit and then put it into gear. Help!
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I've been reading alot of the Forums and it seems like it could be a number of things, Transfer Case, U-joint, wheel hub etc. Listening to it while I was driving today, the spinning rattle sounds like it's coming from the dash but is louder at the gear shifter. I tried shaking the drive shaft but it seems to be stiff. Was I supposed to raise the car and then shake the drive shaft? Help!
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Thank you for you reply. I shook the tranny as well. It didn't seem loose. If it is the motor mounts, what type of problem am I looking for. I changed 2 of the 3 the motor mounts about 2 years ago. They weren't the polyurethane type, but were a softer rubber which I don't think would last very long. Also I can hear the clicking rattle sound in every gear now, just not as loud as it is when Im in 5th gear at 55 mph.
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I would suspect that your clutch may be going bad. Do you feel a vibration in the clutch pedal when you depress it? The fact that it goes into gear hard tells me that it is not disengaging completely. I would start there.
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I can't feel it in the clutch. Can't hear it in neutral. I really can't hear it in 1st gear my exhaust system is kinda loud, but I can start to hear it in 2nd and then gets louder as I shift into 3rd, 4th & 5th. I can feel it in the gear shift in 3rd 4th & 5th. When I push in the Clutch the sound goes away.
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I can't feel it in the clutch. Can't hear it in neutral. I really can't hear it in 1st gear my exhaust system is kinda loud, but I can start to hear it in 2nd and then gets louder as I shift into 3rd, 4th & 5th. I can feel it in the gear shift in 3rd 4th & 5th. When I push in the Clutch the sound goes away.
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if it was your release bearing, you would hear it when in neutral, and disappear when you engage the clutch.
if you hear a rattle when driving, it could be your double cardan u-joints, maybe the centering ball.
i've also had my speedo cable make a rattling noise also.
do you have a hi-lift mounted somewhere? could be just the base rattling.
if you hear a rattle when driving, it could be your double cardan u-joints, maybe the centering ball.
i've also had my speedo cable make a rattling noise also.
do you have a hi-lift mounted somewhere? could be just the base rattling.
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Thanks again, I will check the Slip Yoke and U-Joint. It does look dry in that area. How nessecary is a Transfer Case lowering Kit? I recently put a 3" Rough Country lift in it.
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Ok all here's the latest. I changed out both u joints. But before I installed, the drive shaft, I decided to start my rig up and put it in 5th gear. The rattle is still there. I guess I'll have to pull the tranny and check the throwout bearing next. Is there anything else I could check before I pull the tranny?
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Hello all, here is the latest update. I pulled my tranny today. I didn't take me long at all. I inspected the throw out bearing. It was very loose. I shook it a bit and it sounded a lot like what I was hearing when I was driving. How snug is it supposed to be once installed into the bell housing? Another thing I noticed, is the transmission shaft supposed to have a lil bit of play in it? It moved no more than a 16th of an inch back and forth but not front to back. All the other components looked to be in tip top shape. (clutch plate, pressure plate, pilot bearing)
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