control arm bushing replacement advice
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From: Albuquerque, NM
Year: 19i92
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 HO
still, still DW
Tues it went to alignment shop with top reputation. I was told that my track bar bushing repair was OK but badly executed & tires out of balance(same tires & balance as before DW). Ball joints OK. All else new.
They redid my track bushing bracket/bolt and road force balanced my tires. Said tires were really good balance-wise. That should fix the DW. $431 please.
Today I drove it and got DW plus a bouncy front end @ 65. They said bring it back and they will replace more stuff--like tires!
SO-o, I don't know where to go from here; who to trust?
They redid my track bushing bracket/bolt and road force balanced my tires. Said tires were really good balance-wise. That should fix the DW. $431 please.
Today I drove it and got DW plus a bouncy front end @ 65. They said bring it back and they will replace more stuff--like tires!
SO-o, I don't know where to go from here; who to trust?
#18
Sounds like tires
I have been trking down a vibration at 55 -60 mph and the only thing not replaced yet are the tires .
Try playing with the air press on the fronts, run a little less or more than what you usually have em at. See what happens.
I have been trking down a vibration at 55 -60 mph and the only thing not replaced yet are the tires .
Try playing with the air press on the fronts, run a little less or more than what you usually have em at. See what happens.
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Year: 19i92
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I am presently checking out the tire issue by taking them back to the people(AB) that have been balancing them for the last 20K, since new. They pointed out some funky weight placement and redid the road-force balancing. The tire issue changed but not the DW. Currently waiting for a call back from AB about trying to refine one of the rear tires that feels slightly out of balance at 70-75. The front bouncing is gone tho.
Is it possible to have the DW be caused by the track bar being TOO tight? This DW started when I changed the track bar, linkage and tie rod ends. Springs & CArms came after that in my effort to fix DW.
Is it possible to have the DW be caused by the track bar being TOO tight? This DW started when I changed the track bar, linkage and tie rod ends. Springs & CArms came after that in my effort to fix DW.
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clarification
The jeep has 169 1/2 K on it w/o DW. Same tires for 20K w/o issue. Changed Tb & linkage due to wear then the DW began. Later changed springs & control arms trying ti fix DW. Run 235 street tires on jeep at 32psi; this has been a pretty good setup.
AB just called and says the tires don't need replacement yet and the wheels & tires are running true. No separations or run-out. Will be happy to tweak rear tires again if I want.
So any thoughts on what I might have done while replacing Tb, and tie rod ends that would **** off the front end?
AB just called and says the tires don't need replacement yet and the wheels & tires are running true. No separations or run-out. Will be happy to tweak rear tires again if I want.
So any thoughts on what I might have done while replacing Tb, and tie rod ends that would **** off the front end?
#21
Note that depending on what brand hubs were put in 20k ago one or both can be failing 'prematurely' .
A new stabilizer will only hide the problem since its not what causes D wob.Set up correctly you can run without one , as many do.
My trk b loosened up after just a couple weeks in. It really needs to be cranked good and tight
Has your entire steering been replaced ? What brand were your replacement parts ?
Is there one part not swapped out yet?
How many miles on tires ?
Has vehicle sat for long periods?
Just to make sure, do you feel the D wob in the steering wheel or at the floor / front only ?
A new stabilizer will only hide the problem since its not what causes D wob.Set up correctly you can run without one , as many do.
My trk b loosened up after just a couple weeks in. It really needs to be cranked good and tight
Has your entire steering been replaced ? What brand were your replacement parts ?
Is there one part not swapped out yet?
How many miles on tires ?
Has vehicle sat for long periods?
Just to make sure, do you feel the D wob in the steering wheel or at the floor / front only ?
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From: Albuquerque, NM
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Sat 4/2
As of this AM.
I'm not sure what 'axle bushings' are either. The hubs were replaced in 2011 with Timken units. I am leaning toward some component that I changed initially. That would be the track bar (Moog) and all 3 tie rod ends (Federal mogul via Autozone). I used these because they were lifetime warranted and thus free; further, I hadn't had any issues with the ones replaced except wear at 80K. Repaired the wallowed out Tb hole at the axle bracket with bushings, that was subsequently redone by the alignment shop. Their repair is very similar to mine and didn't fix a thing although the front end 'feels' slightly tighter. I used a grade 12 bolt and torqued it to 55f-lbs; don't know their torque.
The wobble is in the front end; shakes it like dog to the point that I have to nearly stop for it to quit.
today I hope to try changing tire pressure in front tires. Now @ 32 will boost to 36 & try bump if fails then drop to 30 and try again. There's one road spot that triggers wobble reliably just E of town but requires looping around about 12mi to repeat it. Oh well! Keep to brianstorms coming. Thanks!
I'm not sure what 'axle bushings' are either. The hubs were replaced in 2011 with Timken units. I am leaning toward some component that I changed initially. That would be the track bar (Moog) and all 3 tie rod ends (Federal mogul via Autozone). I used these because they were lifetime warranted and thus free; further, I hadn't had any issues with the ones replaced except wear at 80K. Repaired the wallowed out Tb hole at the axle bracket with bushings, that was subsequently redone by the alignment shop. Their repair is very similar to mine and didn't fix a thing although the front end 'feels' slightly tighter. I used a grade 12 bolt and torqued it to 55f-lbs; don't know their torque.
The wobble is in the front end; shakes it like dog to the point that I have to nearly stop for it to quit.
today I hope to try changing tire pressure in front tires. Now @ 32 will boost to 36 & try bump if fails then drop to 30 and try again. There's one road spot that triggers wobble reliably just E of town but requires looping around about 12mi to repeat it. Oh well! Keep to brianstorms coming. Thanks!
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From: Albuquerque, NM
Year: 19i92
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Sat 4/2 PM
Drove over trouble spot 4 times; a place where I-40 bridged a road.
@32psi wobble was evident had to slow nearly stop; @ 36.5 psi wobble less -able to slow partially & it stopped; @30psi wobble was the worst, nearly did stop to get rid of it. (BTW I was on I-40 w/ trucks , etc.) Tried it a forth time @ 36.5psi and confirmed that this caused to least violent reaction.
The wobble was most likely to happen as I came off the bridge as opposed to going onto it.
The front end still feels like it's going to "go off" at any time tho. Doesn't 'feel' like it is loose side-side more like it is loose up &down.
Alignment shop is dissing the Monroe Sensomatic shocks--any thoughts?
@32psi wobble was evident had to slow nearly stop; @ 36.5 psi wobble less -able to slow partially & it stopped; @30psi wobble was the worst, nearly did stop to get rid of it. (BTW I was on I-40 w/ trucks , etc.) Tried it a forth time @ 36.5psi and confirmed that this caused to least violent reaction.
The wobble was most likely to happen as I came off the bridge as opposed to going onto it.
The front end still feels like it's going to "go off" at any time tho. Doesn't 'feel' like it is loose side-side more like it is loose up &down.
Alignment shop is dissing the Monroe Sensomatic shocks--any thoughts?
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