conventional or synthetic
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From: vermont
Year: 1996
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conventional or synthetic
jw anyone know the pros and cons of running synthetic in a 4.0 and if its a good or bad idea to switch from conventional to synthetic. ive heard its not good for seals to switch but i would like it to run cleaner.
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From: Pottstown/Boyertown, PA
Year: 1998
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Originally Posted by tvarney26
jw anyone know the pros and cons of running synthetic in a 4.0 and if its a good or bad idea to switch from conventional to synthetic. ive heard its not good for seals to switch but i would like it to run cleaner.
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From: Roanoke, VA
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Originally Posted by tvarney26
jw anyone know the pros and cons of running synthetic in a 4.0 and if its a good or bad idea to switch from conventional to synthetic. ive heard its not good for seals to switch but i would like it to run cleaner.
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From: Central Frontenac, ON Canada
Year: 2001
Model: Cherokee
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I run full synthetic in all my vehicles, we tend to be higher mileage drivers and my 2001 XJ 4.0 is a DD.
Oil change timing that comes around isn’t always convenient and the synthetic doesn’t break down as fast as conventional so it gives me a cushion to get the change done. Peace of mind anyways. Also could be a couple of more mpgs due to it.
As to leaks, haven’t had any yet and don’t expect any due to the synthetic oil but then my XJ only has about 42,000 miles on it.
Oil change timing that comes around isn’t always convenient and the synthetic doesn’t break down as fast as conventional so it gives me a cushion to get the change done. Peace of mind anyways. Also could be a couple of more mpgs due to it.
As to leaks, haven’t had any yet and don’t expect any due to the synthetic oil but then my XJ only has about 42,000 miles on it.
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Originally Posted by Sails
I run full synthetic in all my vehicles, we tend to be higher mileage drivers and my 2001 XJ 4.0 is a DD.
Oil change timing that comes around isn’t always convenient and the synthetic doesn’t break down as fast as conventional so it gives me a cushion to get the change done. Peace of mind anyways. Also could be a couple of more mpgs due to it.
As to leaks, haven’t had any yet and don’t expect any due to the synthetic oil but then my XJ only has about 42,000 miles on it.
Oil change timing that comes around isn’t always convenient and the synthetic doesn’t break down as fast as conventional so it gives me a cushion to get the change done. Peace of mind anyways. Also could be a couple of more mpgs due to it.
As to leaks, haven’t had any yet and don’t expect any due to the synthetic oil but then my XJ only has about 42,000 miles on it.
I was told by multiple engine guys to stay away from syn. In a 4.0. So I do. I change my oil around 5-7k miles, and it's never dirty, and never had a leak since she was new in '96.
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I don't agree changing to synthetic will cause leaks. I used to sell automotive chemicals so I had to know a lot about oils and additives, and I've had a lot of personal experience with synthetic oils every since Mobil1 first hit the market. I tried it on a new car (only 3,000 mi) and it went through a quart every 500 miles @$5/qt when conventional was $.79/qt. But after going back to conventional until going back to Mobil1 after 12,000 miles it didn't go through any more than the conventional. But even Mobil1 has come a long way since then.
Getting back to my belief about switching to synthetics...
Over the last ten years I bought 8 used vehicles with between 120K and 200K miles
and switched every one of them to synthetic with no issues at all. The ones I bought that had leaks to begin did NOT get worse and a Pathfinder with 155K actually leaked less. Of the vehicles with no leaks, none started leaking.
If by chance you even change brand of oil (whether conventional or synthetic) and you start getting leaks, it's not the fault of the oil, but most likely a higher detergent oil that may have dissolved old varnish on the seals and thus allows leaks. In those cases, the seal was already shot and the varnish was doing the sealing.
In the end I say if you have a leaker, fix it but don't blame it on the oil. If anything blame it on the previous owner for not changing the oil enough (or using P****oil... oops!) and allowing the crap to build up.
At least that's my opinion based on years of first-hand experience...
Getting back to my belief about switching to synthetics...
Over the last ten years I bought 8 used vehicles with between 120K and 200K miles
and switched every one of them to synthetic with no issues at all. The ones I bought that had leaks to begin did NOT get worse and a Pathfinder with 155K actually leaked less. Of the vehicles with no leaks, none started leaking.
If by chance you even change brand of oil (whether conventional or synthetic) and you start getting leaks, it's not the fault of the oil, but most likely a higher detergent oil that may have dissolved old varnish on the seals and thus allows leaks. In those cases, the seal was already shot and the varnish was doing the sealing.
In the end I say if you have a leaker, fix it but don't blame it on the oil. If anything blame it on the previous owner for not changing the oil enough (or using P****oil... oops!) and allowing the crap to build up.
At least that's my opinion based on years of first-hand experience...
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From: Central Frontenac, ON Canada
Year: 2001
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I have had it for about 6 weeks and started with about 39,000 and has been under going floor reconstruction and a bunch of other upgrades. Last year my Santa Fe did about 48,000 miles and the XJ will be replacing it. My wife did 36,000 on her Camry so I think that the 84,000 between us may not be the highest but it beats the 12,000/24,000 considered as normal.
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From: Pahrump, NV
Year: 1996
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Originally Posted by Sails
I have had it for about 6 weeks and started with about 39,000 and has been under going floor reconstruction and a bunch of other upgrades. Last year my Santa Fe did about 48,000 miles and the XJ will be replacing it. My wife did 36,000 on her Camry so I think that the 84,000 between us may not be the highest but it beats the 12,000/24,000 considered as normal.
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But really the only reason I went with the 15w 40 was when I bought it the were out of 10w 30. Plus they had the 15w 40 on sale for $12.95 for the large bottle and it is normally $18 or $19.
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If you stick to a 3k-4K change interval, I personally don't see the advantage to a synthetic, but that's just me. It certainly won't harm anything, it's just costly.