Crank sensor? Was idling then died...
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200mV~50V/div@x10 probe
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Ok, here is where I'm at currently. I see that "negative" spike in the cam sensors wave, on the last pulse of the Crank sensor. Does this mean the cam sensor signal is dropping out on that last wave of the crank signal? I'm very interested in understanding what we are seeing here, please do explain if you would be so kind?
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Hahaha what's a little pun for a learning thread.
Here is how I had hooked up our test to the PCM:
The ground is just some new wire that I tightened into the battery ground.
Here is how I had hooked up our test to the PCM:
The ground is just some new wire that I tightened into the battery ground.
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IDK what that is. It was actually occurring the last time you analyzed this:
but I think the location in this image shows that it's somewhat independent of CKS signal. Yet, also in this image there's extra activity in the CKS at the same spot.
What are you grounded to?
but I think the location in this image shows that it's somewhat independent of CKS signal. Yet, also in this image there's extra activity in the CKS at the same spot.
What are you grounded to?
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I am grounded directly to the battery on todays reading. IIRC the previous test on the old thread, I replaced the Cam sensor and that "fixed" the issue, or allowed the jeep to start just fine until now. Even when I took the Jeep in to a shop for diagnostic, the previous thread, they were unable to find what the issue was.
On the scope reading you posted for the older thread, I believe I grounded with pins for both signal and ground on the plugs.
On the scope reading you posted for the older thread, I believe I grounded with pins for both signal and ground on the plugs.
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Those extra spikes are artifact and the problem is somewhere else; or
Those extra spikes are real and ECU REALLY doesn't like seeing -0- volts where there shouldn't be. If we can't clean up the signals by reducing the sample rate, including those spikes, and given the history of solving the issue before (would've been nice to get waveforms when it was running, but oh well), IIWM I'd shoot the Parts Cannon at another camshaft sensor.
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New idea!
Use the sensor ground instead of the battery ground.
Better new idea!
Watch this (18:00):
Use the sensor ground instead of the battery ground.
Better new idea!
Watch this (18:00):
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