synergy58

No I haven't. Don't have a gage and don't really know how. I just ran it about miles, towed a small cargo trailer ( enclosed 6x10 empty) from my driveway to a storage lot and left it, about 2 miles. Left it running for about 10 min. w AC on high. Drove it back, and it now sits. It ran perfectly! No miss, no ruff idle, just as nice as ever. This is so weird?

cruiser54

Rent/borrow a gauge. It's very easy.

Rogue4x4

This. Or just buy one.

http://www.harborfreight.com/fuel-in...ter-92699.html

Kalali

The very first step in troubleshooting a single cylinder misfire is to move the injector to a different cylinder and see if the code follows. This step alone will rule out fuel delivery and indicts spark delivery as the potential cause. This is of course assuming that engine is internally sound, e.g., compression test, etc. Just as an aside, a cracked 0331 cylinder head could very well cause a single cylinder misfire but only on #3 or #4 cylinders.

synergy58

Sorry, I had a hard time remembering what thread was discussing this issue.

So fuel gage. Ok, I'll try and find one and learn how to use it. I posted about this weird ruff idle mystery on "Mothers Day run" . If anyone can give me some advise on figuring this out that would be great. Thanks!

Firestorm500

Any head can crack anywhere. It's not written in stone that they have to crack there, and there only.

md21722

That's true but at this point how many of us can say they've heard of a 0331 head that cracked anywhere other than between the #3-#4 rocker arms? The heads crack on the top so misfiring does not really occur.

When my 01 XJ had the cylinder #1 misfiring it was intermittent for quite a long time. It would only happen after a long highway drive (400+ miles) and then sitting in traffic. After about 60,000 miles of this, it finally did it the next morning so I was able to get it resolved.

Firestorm500

[QUOTE=md21722;3086743

When my 01 XJ had the cylinder #1 misfiring it was intermittent for quite a long time. It would only happen after a long highway drive (400+ miles) and then sitting in traffic. After about 60,000 miles of this, it finally did it the next morning so I was able to get it resolved.[/QUOTE]

So, it finally did what? the next morning. And what? did you resolve.

md21722

I read my post twice and its clear to me. I did say When my 01 XJ had the cylinder #1 misfiring.

Firestorm500

I'm glad it's clear to you, because you were there. I read your post where you talked about head cracking and misfiring in the same post.

If it was the #1 injector that finally quit, and then you replaced it and problem solved, then say so. Be specific, and maybe someone else can benefit from your experience.

cruiser54

I think you guys are going crack crazy.

Rat999Salad

Used the bg44k. Still got the engine light. Got it cleared with a machine and it still came back on.
Gonna try the heat tape next. My engine is definitely super hot after driving. Not sure if that's the norm or what.

cruiser54

How long has the BG been in there since Full? Gotten down to half tank yet and refueled?

The engine bays are hot as hadies anyway.

Crank up the RPMs. You're not gonna blow it up.

Rat999Salad

i'll give it a shot. i put it in with a full tank, let it get to a half, then filled again. its about a half now.

md21722

If the injector is suspect, you can swap the #1 and #2 injectors and see if the misfire moves with it. In some cases it is the fuel injector. In other cases, its low compression from the valves. You can follow the TSB which calls for removing the valve cover and inspecting the tops of the valves to see if they have a bullseye or line pattern. The bullseye is what you want to see. A line means the valve isn't rotating. If the valves are the problem the TSB lists out a troubleshooting procedure to manually turn them. If the engine has over 150,000 miles you may want to pull the head and have a valve job done. The valve seats on #1 and #6 usually get pitted.

Here is the TSB:

09-003-03
GROUP: Engine
DATE: Aug. 01, 2003
This bulletin is supplied as technical information only and is not an authorization for repair. No part of this publication may be reproduced, stored in a retreival system,
or transmitted, in any form or by any means, electronic, mechanical, photocopying, or otherwise, without written permission of DaimlerChrysler Corporation.
SUBJECT:
4.0L Multiple Cylinder Misfire
OVERVIEW:
This bulletin involves inspection of all engine exhaust valves and a decarbonizing
procedure if necessary.
MODELS:
1999 - 2004 (WJ) Grand Cherokee (All Markets)
2001 - 2004 (WG) Grand Cherokee (International Markets)
1999 - 2004 (TJ) Wrangler
1999 - 2001 (XJ) Cherokee
NOTE: THIS BULLETIN APPLIES TO VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH A
4.0L ENGINE (SALES CODE = ERH).
SYMPTOM/CONDITION:
The customer may experience an incident of engine misfire during certain vehicle
operating conditons. The misfire may occur when the vehicle is operated between
80 - 112 KPH (50 - 70 MPH) and under light loading conditions, e.g. slight uphill
road grades. This condition may occur at all ambient conditions, but is more
noticeable when ambient conditons are less than 0 C (32 F).
If the vehicle is equipped with On-Board Diagnostic (OBD), a MIL illumination may also
have occurred due to Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) P0300 - Mulitiple Cylinder Misfire.
Various single cylinder misfire DTC’s may also be present. If the frequency of misfire is
high the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) may place the engine in “Limp-In” mode.
The misfire condition may be caused by one or more engine exhaust valves that are
slow to close. Late closure of an exhaust valve may be the result of no valve rotation
and associated build up of carbon on the exhaust valve stem.
DIAGNOSIS:
1. This condition may occur when the engine is not allowed to run at engine RPM’s that
are greater than 3,200 RPM. At 3,200 RPM or higher the engine exhaust valves
will rotate if not impeded by high carbon deposits. Low engine RPM’s and high
carbon deposits are associated with short trip driving where the vehicle engine is
not allowed to fully warm to normal engine operating temperatures. Cold ambient
temperatures will increase engine warm-up time and add to the opportunity of
carbon deposit build-up on the stem of the engine exhaust valve.
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2. Verify that an engine misfire condition is present. Use of the DRBIII® during a road
test, or a Co-Pilot data recording, may help to determine engine misfire and misfire
counts. If carbon deposit accumulation is severe, then a cylinder leak down test
may detect one or more cylinders leaking greater than 15%. Save any misfire DTC
Freeze Frame Data that was stored for later misfire correction verification.
3. Verify that the engine misfire condition is not caused by faulty engine
mechanical or electrical components.
4. If the engine mechanical and electrical systems are operating properly
perform the Repair Procedure.
PARTS REQUIRED:
Qty. Part No. Description
1 04318001AB Mopar Combustion Chamber Cleaner
EQUIPMENT REQUIRED:
MD-998772A Valve Spring Compressor and Removal Essential Tool
REPAIR PROCEDURE:
INSPECTION:
1. Raise vehicle hood.
2. Remove the engine valve cover and all six exhaust valve rocker arms (the intake rocker
arms are also removed during this step). Refer to the appropriate vehicle Service
Manual for detailed removal instructions. The valve cover gasket is reuseable. Keep
each pair of rocker arms matched to their respective valve and cylinder.
3. Inspect the end, or tip, of each exhaust valve stem where it makes
contact with the respective rocker arm.
4. Determine if each exhaust valve is rotating within its respective valve guide. An
exhaust valve that is rotating will have a “bulls eye” or circular wear pattern on the
face of the valve stem tip. If the exhaust valve is not rotating a straight mark-like
pattern will be present across the face of the valve stem tip.
5. If there are exhaust valves which are not rotating then proceed to the VALVE
ROTATION section of this Repair Procedure.
6. If all exhaust valves are rotating, then this bulletin does not apply and further
diagnosis is required. Install the engine rocker arms and valve cover. Refer to the
appropriate vehicle Service Manual for detailed installation instructions.
VALVE ROTATION:
1. If one or more engine exhaust valves are not rotating, perform the valve
rotation procedure to all six (6) exhaust valves.
NOTE: IT IS IMPORTANT THAT THE VALVE ROTATION SECTION OF THIS
REPAIR PROCEDURE BE PERFORMED.
2. Clean and mark the tip of each exhaust valve stem with a paint marker. The paint mark
will be used later to assist with determining if the exhaust valve has been rotated 90 .
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3. Bring number one (#1) cylinder piston to top dead center using the mark on the
crankshaft front dampener/pulley. This step is important to prevent the possibility
of the exhaust valve from falling completely into the cylinder.
4. Install the essential service tool valve spring compressor, MD-998772A,
to the #1 cylinder exhaust valve spring.
NOTE: THE FOLLOWING VALVE ROTATION PROCEDURE WAS DEVELOPED WITH
THE USE OF VALVE SPRING COMPRESSOR TOOL MD-998772A. THE MD-998772A IS
AN ESSENTIAL SERVICE TOOL AND PART OF THE DEALERSHIP REQUIRED TOOLS.
THE MD-998772A COMPRESSOR ENGAGES THE ENTIRE PERIMETER OF THE
VALVE SPRING RETAINER, UNLIKE OTHER MAKE VALVE SPRING COMPRESSORS.
5. Compress the #1 cylinder exhaust valve spring enough to gain access so that
the exhaust valve can be rotated 90 . Rotate the exhaust valve 90 . Slowly
remove the compression on the exhaust valve spring. Verify that the valve keeper
is properly seated to the valve stem and valve spring retainer.
6. The 4.0L firing order is 1 - 5 - 3 - 6 - 2 - 4. Without rotating the engine
crankshaft repeat steps 3 through 5 to cylinder #6.
7. Rotate the engine crankshaft 120 and repeat steps 3 through 5 to cylinders #5 and #2.
8. Rotate the engine crankshaft another 120 and repeat steps 3 through
5 to cylinders #3 and #4.
9. Install all cylinder rocker arms (intake and exhausts) and retaining bridge. Make certain
that the push rods are properly seated to their respective rocker arm and lifter. Tighten
the respective cylinder bridge/rocker arm cap screws to 30 Nm (21 ft. lbs.) when each
cylinder piston is at top dead center (cylinder intake and exhaust valves are closed).
10. Install the engine cylinder head valve cover. Tighten the valve cover bolts to 10 Nm (85 in.
lbs.). Refer to the appropriate vehicle Service Manual for detailed assembly instructions.
DECARBONING COMBUSTION CHAMBER AND VALVES:
1. Start the vehicle engine and allow the engine to reach normal operating temperature.
2. Remove the air tube from the engine throttle body.
3. With the engine at idle, spray the entire contents of Mopar Combustion Chamber
Cleaner, p/n 04318001AB, directly into the throttle body. As the cleaner is being
ingested, allow the vehicle to “load up” with the cleaner to the point that the engine is
almost stalling out. Maintain this condition until all of the cleaner is used/ingested.
4. Stop the engine once the entire can of cleaner has been ingested.
5. Install the air tube to the throttle body.
6. With the hood closed and the vehicle parked inside the garage, allow the vehicle
engine to heat soak for two to three hours. This will ensure that the engine will
maintain its temperature and will allow proper solvent penetration.
7. After engine soak, start the engine and drive the vehicle until the engine is
has reached normal engine operating temperatures.
8. If the vehicle is equipped with an automatic transmission, place the gear
selector into “L” (low). If the vehicle is equipped with a manual transmission,
place the transmission into first gear.
9. In a safe vehicle operating location that will allow the vehicle to be driven safely and at
the posted speed limit, accelerate the vehicle until the engine reaches 4500 RPM.
10. Hold the engine speed at this RPM for 15 seconds.
09-003-03 -4-
11. Slow down and in a safe location pull to the side of the road. Allow
the engine to idle for five seconds.
12. Repeat steps 9 through 11 five more times.
13. With the vehicle at operating temperature and using any available Freeze
Frame data recorded when the misfire DTC occurred, verify that the
misfire condition has been corrected.
14. Erase any engine DTC’s once the misfire condition has been corrected