Dana 60 rear full floater?
12-22-2010 | 11:09 AM
#46
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From: Griffin, G.A.
Year: 1990
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Engine: 4.0 I6
Originally Posted by xj_punk
you can run 15's on a 14ff and grind the 3/4 ton 44 calipers down to fit 15's as well. yes they are heavy and bulky but you can shave a ton off the bottom of them really easily and a disc swap takes a lot of weight off. i'd rather run my 44 with 36's (i did that on my old xj with no problems) than swap to a marginally better axle like a 60 or 9. i've seen too many broken 9" center sections and bent flanges to ever want one, unless i put a bunch of money into building it. and yes 60's are not great in stock form, the axles are barely bigger than a 44 and still 30 spline. don't tell me to think smarter, they break. it doesn't matter what vehicle they came in, jeep put dana 35's behind so many different vehicles that can break them in stock form. nissan puts a freakin dana44 behind a v8. chevy has put 10 bolts behind v8's forever... so you think smarter. just because it is done, that does not make it right. in fact arguing that a manufacturer does something right is funny because we spend most of our time fixing their mistakes. think about it.
i don't know why anyone would go to cl for axles, you must not have jy's around you. i got my xj44 for $88 complete. my buddy has found 2 hp60's for $200 which is usually the going rate for front axles... think smarter lol
to the OP: it sounds like you're in over your head. go read some full builds and witness all the parts that need to be purchased to get it done. brackets, joints and steel alone will really hit your wallet hard. once you get all that done it will nickel and dime you to death too... good luck though
i don't know why anyone would go to cl for axles, you must not have jy's around you. i got my xj44 for $88 complete. my buddy has found 2 hp60's for $200 which is usually the going rate for front axles... think smarter lol
to the OP: it sounds like you're in over your head. go read some full builds and witness all the parts that need to be purchased to get it done. brackets, joints and steel alone will really hit your wallet hard. once you get all that done it will nickel and dime you to death too... good luck though
12-22-2010 | 11:11 AM
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From: Griffin, G.A.
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Originally Posted by xj_punk
sure you can do it, you can do anything with a welder and some steel but it's not ideal because they have thinner tubes. why not get a hd44 and cut off the perches? if you're set on 5x5.5 all of it swaps over and that's an easier and cheaper job than cutting and sleeving a cast model. think smarter
12-22-2010 | 11:12 AM
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that's the beautiful thing, they came under a million different gm trucks and vans. they are sooooo plentiful, it will blow your mind. i always suggest trying to find the newest one on the vehicle that looks the least beat-up but yeah start looking
12-22-2010 | 11:14 AM
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From: Griffin, G.A.
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Originally Posted by RyanCherokee77
Ya everyone seems to be telling me to do a 14bolt. What yearsandtrucks do those come out of
12-22-2010 | 11:16 AM
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ALL axles can snap... so I don't really care what you say about your 14bolt... you want it fine... I don't care... I'm not arguing with you about common sense... half of the stuff you just said I don't even know what your talking about... I'm also so happy for you that you can get your axles cheap... but the entire country is not like your county... some people find Craigslist cheaper... some find junkyards cheaper.... I simple said Craigslist to give the OP another option... I didn't do it for you... nothing in here is for you... believe it or not...
once again, why suggest something that isn't ideal and tell the person that suggested it to keep reading? you sure think you know it all because of your post count, but what have you built? why would i "hate on" stuff you didn't even say? i'm just trying to help the op out by giving him advice from someone that has been through it
12-22-2010 | 11:20 AM
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to the op: they came in 1 ton chevs too. also, watch out for the metric 14 bolt, they have a smaller ring gear (9.5") and are semi-float. some people try to pass them off as the corporate 14 bolt... it's funny cause they are soooo different but sometimes people buy them not knowing any better
12-22-2010 | 11:23 AM
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From: Griffin, G.A.
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Originally Posted by xj_punk
well why would you tell him to look on cl before even suggesting a jy? most of the people selling stuff on there go get it from a jy and mark up the price to make a profit... sure there is knowledge to be had in here, just not from you
once again, why suggest something that isn't ideal and tell the person that suggested it to keep reading? you sure think you know it all because of your post count, but what have you built? why would i "hate on" stuff you didn't even say? i'm just trying to help the op out by giving him advice from someone that has been through it
12-22-2010 | 11:31 AM
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Because you already mentioned to him about looking at a junkyard!!!!! So again I say... I was giving another option... forums give options... the OP desides which one is best for him... just because someone gives an option and states a fact and YOU would do something different doesn't make it wrong... again this forum in not built or intended to go by only what YOU say... u can have your opinion... I really don't care... but I'm gonna voice mine as well... if you don't like it pack up and move the hell on...
to the op: if you're looking at 14ff i'd also suggest looking at the sterling, they are found in a ton of ford's, the best model being the '93-'98 F-250 and F-350 and they are also very beefy. they have 35 spline 1.5" shafts and another cool thing is the o-ring for the axle seal. we put one under a buddie's yj and it worked out really well. before 93 they have a shorter pinion and are weaker and after '99.5 they changed to the stupid metric 8x170 wheel pattern
12-22-2010 | 11:35 AM
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From: Griffin, G.A.
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PS half of my post count is because I've been here whats considered a long time in the forum world and support this forum and the good people that join and supported it with me...
The other half is moderating and dealing with people that hide behind there 15in monitors... takes up alot of time and posts lol...
The other half is moderating and dealing with people that hide behind there 15in monitors... takes up alot of time and posts lol...
12-22-2010 | 11:36 AM
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From: Griffin, G.A.
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Originally Posted by xj_punk
you're right, i can have my opinion... and i do... and i don't have to pack up and move on... i can just respectfully choose to ignore everything say... discussion over for the sake of the op's thread, if you have anything else to say to me... and i hope you don't, pm me lol
to the op: if you're looking at 14ff i'd also suggest looking at the sterling, they are found in a ton of ford's, the best model being the '93-'98 F-250 and F-350 and they are also very beefy. they have 35 spline 1.5" shafts and another cool thing is the o-ring for the axle seal. we put one under a buddie's yj and it worked out really well. before 93 they have a shorter pinion and are weaker and after '99.5 they changed to the stupid metric 8x170 wheel pattern
12-22-2010 | 12:05 PM
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From: cape cod ma.
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yes and watch the word metric....just use the word floater..i am running a 2004 gmc 2500hd disc rear in my 81 chevy and it had metric bolts in everything but is the same inside...all i had to do was swap out the yolk and seal to an older one so my driveshaft would fit
12-22-2010 | 01:46 PM
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ok so i just got back from the jy they have a 14 bolt ff which looks huuuuge it looks like ill have to run 20s to fit over the drums..is that the right kind? they also had a rear d60 ff from an f 350 dont know what year ford 9 rear and a dana 44 front not sure what is was from but it is a driver side drop i can get any 2 of those axles for 500$ what do you guys think? Which should i go for or should i find out more info?
12-22-2010 | 02:54 PM
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No no no, you need rockwell's. lol
It funny this tread has went from d60 to 14b to Sterling and yes, now i'm taking it to 2.5 tons
In all seriousness, i beat on my old XJ with 35's on stock axles. I blew the front axle from the gears commoning unmeshed. bought a JY one, added a truss and kept on going. Unless your doing rock crawling with 38+ tires, whats the point of anything bigger than an 8.8?
It funny this tread has went from d60 to 14b to Sterling and yes, now i'm taking it to 2.5 tons
In all seriousness, i beat on my old XJ with 35's on stock axles. I blew the front axle from the gears commoning unmeshed. bought a JY one, added a truss and kept on going. Unless your doing rock crawling with 38+ tires, whats the point of anything bigger than an 8.8?