Danger : Pittsburgh jack stands HARBOR FREIGHT RECALL
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My experience with HFT is that their claimed ratings are up to 50% more that what they (safely) are (so if you want a good 2 ton floor jack get the HFT 3 ton. You want 2 ton jack stands, get the 3 ton. You want a hydraulic press don't even bother with the 6 ton).
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Funny you should mention that.
So as part of the clone build I want to do the Up Country Suspension.
Read through the posts. The Crown, Dorman, or US General Springs with the Moog coils and the coil spring spacers.
Thing is Mopar leafs appear to still be available. They will cost a more then the Dorman cause there will most likely be shipping and they do not come with bushings.
Probably about the same as the US General cause they charge shipping and don't come with bushings.
Much more then the Crown cause they just cost more, probably no shipping charges with the Crowns, and even though Crowns don't come with bushings the end result would be cheaper then the Mopars.
Mopar front coils nowhere to be had though.
So I am leaning towards just using Mopar leafs.
In anticipation of actually getting this done I got what I believe to be a pretty good deal on these.
New Mopar bushings with tax and shipping $45 for the lot.
Also been thing about the front coils.
Current thinking is to just do the leafs. See where it ends up and if the rake is acceptable drive as is and see if the springs settle.
Then using the appropriate size spacer to level her out. As long as the spacer is not to big and since the Jeep is just a DD thinking it will be OK.
If I actually wheeled her then no.
Then again I might use the Moog coils. We shall see if and when the time actually comes. LOL.
EDIT: I was wrong. Looks like the US General leafs do come with bushings.
So as part of the clone build I want to do the Up Country Suspension.
Read through the posts. The Crown, Dorman, or US General Springs with the Moog coils and the coil spring spacers.
Thing is Mopar leafs appear to still be available. They will cost a more then the Dorman cause there will most likely be shipping and they do not come with bushings.
Probably about the same as the US General cause they charge shipping and don't come with bushings.
Much more then the Crown cause they just cost more, probably no shipping charges with the Crowns, and even though Crowns don't come with bushings the end result would be cheaper then the Mopars.
Mopar front coils nowhere to be had though.
So I am leaning towards just using Mopar leafs.
In anticipation of actually getting this done I got what I believe to be a pretty good deal on these.
New Mopar bushings with tax and shipping $45 for the lot.
Also been thing about the front coils.
Current thinking is to just do the leafs. See where it ends up and if the rake is acceptable drive as is and see if the springs settle.
Then using the appropriate size spacer to level her out. As long as the spacer is not to big and since the Jeep is just a DD thinking it will be OK.
If I actually wheeled her then no.
Then again I might use the Moog coils. We shall see if and when the time actually comes. LOL.
EDIT: I was wrong. Looks like the US General leafs do come with bushings.
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Thank you I will keep that in mind but pretty sure my buddy has one in his garage.
Be surprised if he doesn't cause he pretty much has everything else in there.
I would ask him if I could post a picture of it but don't think he would be OK with it.
Trust me when I tell you.
Thinking at least 90% of us would kill for this setup. LOL.
Be surprised if he doesn't cause he pretty much has everything else in there.
I would ask him if I could post a picture of it but don't think he would be OK with it.
Trust me when I tell you.
Thinking at least 90% of us would kill for this setup. LOL.
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Talking about showing a picture of his whole garage.
Like I said not even sure if he owns a press but he pretty much has every thing else in there.
So betting he does.
As mentioned this garage is pretty incredible.
Want to say close to $100K just for the structure.
Never mind outfitting it as he has done.
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Jeez Papa, that's crazy.
I've used a set of HF stands several times since I bought them to do the clutch on my XJ nearly 2 years ago and they've held up for me. However, I'm also the person that's got the stands, the tires under the frame (when they're off) the jack set just touching the frame or axle, so I'll now take the extra precaution of double checking the stands before trusting them.
Fortunately Jeeps are usually high enough that I'm either going all out with multiple supports or just crawling underneath with the tires on the ground. Of course, my next big project is new struts all around and new ball joints on the family car (Corolla)... that f'er has to be jacked up just to do a simple oil change, so we'll be double checking the stands for sure before I start that project.
I've used a set of HF stands several times since I bought them to do the clutch on my XJ nearly 2 years ago and they've held up for me. However, I'm also the person that's got the stands, the tires under the frame (when they're off) the jack set just touching the frame or axle, so I'll now take the extra precaution of double checking the stands before trusting them.
Fortunately Jeeps are usually high enough that I'm either going all out with multiple supports or just crawling underneath with the tires on the ground. Of course, my next big project is new struts all around and new ball joints on the family car (Corolla)... that f'er has to be jacked up just to do a simple oil change, so we'll be double checking the stands for sure before I start that project.
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Well, ain't that special! I just bought two more of their 6 ton stands, and my 96 is sitting on them right now. I guess I need to look for the numbers.....
Thanks for posting that.
Thanks for posting that.
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My 2 sets of 6 tons, still brand new in the box, probably do.
I bought them awhile back in anticipation of actually doing the suspension someday.
Now I am glad that I picked up those 5 ton Lincolns that day for $34.
Whole the time wondering why I was buying them. I had the 2 sets of 6 tons already.
Plus a set of 3 ton Snap On ones I paid $25 for. Not to mention the 1 set of HF 3 tons too. LOL.
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