Diiiiie ABS
#2
... i guess were not sure... idk. i think it would be a matter of switching some sensors out, or something. try a thread search, or post it on advanced... GL!
abs sucks!!!! put a subby into a snowbank this winter cause abs sucks so hard!!!! it was kinda scarry and really put me off the whole system. not the first time that abs has been an issue with stopping. but it was the first time i "crashed" cause of it... its an ok system if your driving on dry, clean pavement all day long, but those sensors get messed up w/ snow, or mud, or a gentle breeze...
abs sucks!!!! put a subby into a snowbank this winter cause abs sucks so hard!!!! it was kinda scarry and really put me off the whole system. not the first time that abs has been an issue with stopping. but it was the first time i "crashed" cause of it... its an ok system if your driving on dry, clean pavement all day long, but those sensors get messed up w/ snow, or mud, or a gentle breeze...
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Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
Model: Cherokee
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#4
ABS is unnecessary for a good driver. it is designed for someone who doesn't know how to drive...just like traction control.
if you talk to any GOOD driver, they HATE ABS. ABS has almost killed me twice in the last year.
basically, it's useless and actually makes it less safe to drive. wht it does for me is cuts out brake pressure when I want brake pressure...and just simply stops applying brakes. shot me straight across an intersection this past year...the second time it happened, I slammed the car in park, back to neutral, shut it off, and then used non-power brakes to stop me from going straight out in front of a semi.
to remove ABS, pull the fuse, remove the valve box/controller, and re-hook the lines directly to the proportioning valve.
if you talk to any GOOD driver, they HATE ABS. ABS has almost killed me twice in the last year.
basically, it's useless and actually makes it less safe to drive. wht it does for me is cuts out brake pressure when I want brake pressure...and just simply stops applying brakes. shot me straight across an intersection this past year...the second time it happened, I slammed the car in park, back to neutral, shut it off, and then used non-power brakes to stop me from going straight out in front of a semi.
to remove ABS, pull the fuse, remove the valve box/controller, and re-hook the lines directly to the proportioning valve.
#5
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From: Maryville Tennessee
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 L
ABS is unnecessary for a good driver. it is designed for someone who doesn't know how to drive...just like traction control.
if you talk to any GOOD driver, they HATE ABS. ABS has almost killed me twice in the last year.
basically, it's useless and actually makes it less safe to drive. wht it does for me is cuts out brake pressure when I want brake pressure...and just simply stops applying brakes. shot me straight across an intersection this past year...the second time it happened, I slammed the car in park, back to neutral, shut it off, and then used non-power brakes to stop me from going straight out in front of a semi.
to remove ABS, pull the fuse, remove the valve box/controller, and re-hook the lines directly to the proportioning valve.
if you talk to any GOOD driver, they HATE ABS. ABS has almost killed me twice in the last year.
basically, it's useless and actually makes it less safe to drive. wht it does for me is cuts out brake pressure when I want brake pressure...and just simply stops applying brakes. shot me straight across an intersection this past year...the second time it happened, I slammed the car in park, back to neutral, shut it off, and then used non-power brakes to stop me from going straight out in front of a semi.
to remove ABS, pull the fuse, remove the valve box/controller, and re-hook the lines directly to the proportioning valve.
#6
ABS is unnecessary for a good driver. it is designed for someone who doesn't know how to drive...just like traction control.
if you talk to any GOOD driver, they HATE ABS. ABS has almost killed me twice in the last year.
basically, it's useless and actually makes it less safe to drive. wht it does for me is cuts out brake pressure when I want brake pressure...and just simply stops applying brakes. shot me straight across an intersection this past year...the second time it happened, I slammed the car in park, back to neutral, shut it off, and then used non-power brakes to stop me from going straight out in front of a semi.
to remove ABS, pull the fuse, remove the valve box/controller, and re-hook the lines directly to the proportioning valve.
if you talk to any GOOD driver, they HATE ABS. ABS has almost killed me twice in the last year.
basically, it's useless and actually makes it less safe to drive. wht it does for me is cuts out brake pressure when I want brake pressure...and just simply stops applying brakes. shot me straight across an intersection this past year...the second time it happened, I slammed the car in park, back to neutral, shut it off, and then used non-power brakes to stop me from going straight out in front of a semi.
to remove ABS, pull the fuse, remove the valve box/controller, and re-hook the lines directly to the proportioning valve.
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#8
Although what you say may hold true on some dry paved surfaces, I don't care how good a driver is or thinks he is, when it comes to slick surfaces(ice, snow, etc.)I know for a fact and from experience that you WILL have better control of any vehicle in a panic stop situation if it is equipped with an ABS system.
The issues I experienced were in snow storms in controlled, non-panic stop situations...I began slowing down from 55 to zero more than a mile ahead, and the brakes stopped working the way I want them to work right around 10mph.
I literally could not get the vehicle to stop, either time, in slippery conditions.
ABS works on dry pavement. that's it. just like traction control. remove that electrical crap and learn to drive.
#9
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From: Maryville Tennessee
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 L
you're WRONG.
The issues I experienced were in snow storms in controlled, non-panic stop situations...I began slowing down from 55 to zero more than a mile ahead, and the brakes stopped working the way I want them to work right around 10mph.
I literally could not get the vehicle to stop, either time, in slippery conditions.
ABS works on dry pavement. that's it. just like traction control. remove that electrical crap and learn to drive.
The issues I experienced were in snow storms in controlled, non-panic stop situations...I began slowing down from 55 to zero more than a mile ahead, and the brakes stopped working the way I want them to work right around 10mph.
I literally could not get the vehicle to stop, either time, in slippery conditions.
ABS works on dry pavement. that's it. just like traction control. remove that electrical crap and learn to drive.
#11
Thats dumb. Pull the fuse. Abs by nature is designed to work as base brakes if the unit malfunctions or loses power. Properly functioning abs will out stop your foot in all conditions. But don't trust me or the engineers that designed these systems. There is a handfull of people who can out stop abs. But they're getting paid a hell of a lot of money to drive, you can usually catch them on the speed channel.
#12
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From: Oroville, CA
Year: 1995
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 with all of the noise and clatter
ABS was not designed to shorten stopping distances, it was designed to keep the wheels from locking up so steering control could be maintained. It can shorten stopping distances on dry pavement, and as long as the driver keeps steady pressure on the brake pedal, there should be no issues with losing control of the vehicle.
#14
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From: Oroville, CA
Year: 1995
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 with all of the noise and clatter
#15
ABS is unnecessary for a good driver. it is designed for someone who doesn't know how to drive...just like traction control.
if you talk to any GOOD driver, they HATE ABS. ABS has almost killed me twice in the last year.
basically, it's useless and actually makes it less safe to drive. wht it does for me is cuts out brake pressure when I want brake pressure...and just simply stops applying brakes. shot me straight across an intersection this past year...the second time it happened, I slammed the car in park, back to neutral, shut it off, and then used non-power brakes to stop me from going straight out in front of a semi.
to remove ABS, pull the fuse, remove the valve box/controller, and re-hook the lines directly to the proportioning valve.
if you talk to any GOOD driver, they HATE ABS. ABS has almost killed me twice in the last year.
basically, it's useless and actually makes it less safe to drive. wht it does for me is cuts out brake pressure when I want brake pressure...and just simply stops applying brakes. shot me straight across an intersection this past year...the second time it happened, I slammed the car in park, back to neutral, shut it off, and then used non-power brakes to stop me from going straight out in front of a semi.
to remove ABS, pull the fuse, remove the valve box/controller, and re-hook the lines directly to the proportioning valve.
you're WRONG.
The issues I experienced were in snow storms in controlled, non-panic stop situations...I began slowing down from 55 to zero more than a mile ahead, and the brakes stopped working the way I want them to work right around 10mph.
I literally could not get the vehicle to stop, either time, in slippery conditions.
ABS works on dry pavement. that's it. just like traction control. remove that electrical crap and learn to drive.
The issues I experienced were in snow storms in controlled, non-panic stop situations...I began slowing down from 55 to zero more than a mile ahead, and the brakes stopped working the way I want them to work right around 10mph.
I literally could not get the vehicle to stop, either time, in slippery conditions.
ABS works on dry pavement. that's it. just like traction control. remove that electrical crap and learn to drive.