View Poll Results: Buy new or used?
New Shiney! Damn the cost.
2
40.00%
Steady now, second hand is fine
2
40.00%
Fit new, tell the wife it's second hand
1
20.00%
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Dillemma - new or used?
#1
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From: North Riding of Yorkshire, UK
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Dillemma - new or used?
My brand new Power Steering Pump (cheap cr@p off ebay which turned up with chinese writing on the filler instead of English) is leaking badly. It's so bad I have to top up every day.
So. I'll rip it off and try to chase the 1 Year warranty that was promised.
I can get a used one (with pulley) for 150 pounds or a new Crown for 320 (without pulley). I don't have the puller tool.
Are PS pumps usually OK or am I buying the equivalent of a second hand wheel bearing? What would you do?
So. I'll rip it off and try to chase the 1 Year warranty that was promised.
I can get a used one (with pulley) for 150 pounds or a new Crown for 320 (without pulley). I don't have the puller tool.
Are PS pumps usually OK or am I buying the equivalent of a second hand wheel bearing? What would you do?
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From: Eastern Long Island, NY
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I6 Cyl / 4L
Double check the leak is not from the hoses, or the connections. Have you identified where the leak is coming from?
Also, did you flush the system before installing the new one? Debris can make the new pump fail prematurely.
As for which pump to get, I can't comment because I don't know the make and condition of the used pump. If it is OEM and in good shape, I would give it a shot. But if you can't tell the shape it is in, I would pass and keep looking. 320 pounds is a lot for a new steering pump. I would keep looking for better after market brands online. Look for ACDELCO, Lares or A-1 Cardone. A new pump has the benefit of having new bearings, which you want, because they should last longer than the used unit, which could be near end of life.
Also, did you flush the system before installing the new one? Debris can make the new pump fail prematurely.
As for which pump to get, I can't comment because I don't know the make and condition of the used pump. If it is OEM and in good shape, I would give it a shot. But if you can't tell the shape it is in, I would pass and keep looking. 320 pounds is a lot for a new steering pump. I would keep looking for better after market brands online. Look for ACDELCO, Lares or A-1 Cardone. A new pump has the benefit of having new bearings, which you want, because they should last longer than the used unit, which could be near end of life.
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From: Western Washington
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L Renix
Also, as far as the pully puller goes, do you have an auto parts store that can loan you one? The stores here in America do a tool loan program, just pay a deposit, use the tool, bring it back when done, retrieve the deposit. Makes things easy, and worth asking around maybe. Cheers
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From: Lost in the wilds of Virginia
Year: 1998 Classic (I'll get it running soon....) and 02 Grand
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
As far as the poll goes, you forgot the most important option - never buy auto parts from eBay.
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From: Southern OH
Year: 1997
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From: Lost in the wilds of Virginia
Year: 1998 Classic (I'll get it running soon....) and 02 Grand
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Lots of people tailgate all their lives, and never rear-end someone.
That doesn't make it a good idea.
That doesn't make it a good idea.
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From: Southern OH
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0
I got my Spartan lockers for my Jeep and the Detroit locker for my truck from eBay and they are the real thing. I have ordered several bearings from ebay and they are always Timken or Koyo bearings, and I have also ordered several Motorcraft parts and sensors for my tuck and they have always been genuine OEM parts, if you ever get something that's different than what you ordered they have a money back guarantee and they honor it. Sure they sell cheap Chinese stuff but they are often from the same suppliers that the auto parts stores get their cheaper in-house brand parts from. They also have quick shipping and good customer service, unlike Amazon.
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From: Northern New Mexico
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I got my Spartan lockers for my Jeep and the Detroit locker for my truck from eBay and they are the real thing. I have ordered several bearings from ebay and they are always Timken or Koyo bearings, and I have also ordered several Motorcraft parts and sensors for my tuck and they have always been genuine OEM parts, if you ever get something that's different than what you ordered they have a money back guarantee and they honor it. Sure they sell cheap Chinese stuff but they are often from the same suppliers that the auto parts stores get their cheaper in-house brand parts from. They also have quick shipping and good customer service, unlike Amazon.
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Year: 1998 Classic (I'll get it running soon....) and 02 Grand
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From: Southern OH
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What makes eBay worse than any other online retailer? If you are not satisfied with your order you can return it and get your money back just like anywhere else.
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From: Northern New Mexico
Year: 1999
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based off mine and many others experience, ebay is generally one of the worst online retailers because again, you just never know what you are getting. At least amazon and others, sellers are sort of "vetted" and there are better review systems then ebay.
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