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Old 11-04-2010, 08:55 PM
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ok,i have recently realized that my 1992 xj with the 4.0 has been swapped from the H.O. distributor to the renix. the wiring has been altered,but my question is...do the 2 distributors have the same plug on the pick up or is this why the wiring has been altered? i am wanting to replace the distributor for the right one but if the plugs are different then i have a problem.
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ok,no one wants to answer anything? here is my dillema, i have looked at the pics of the 2 different pick up coils. i can tell you that my pick up coil does not come out like a typical H.O. pick up. you have to pull the distributor to change it....but the plug on the pickup(has not been cut and spliced) doesnt look like the round plug that a renix has,it looks like the oval shape of the H.O. so what kind of a mess do i have here? or am i just not seeing it correctly?
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Sounds like u have to replace it but im not a renix guy
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Get your new dizzy and look at it. If someone put a Renix harness on there, swap out the Renix plug for an HO plug, or just use bullet connectors. problem solved
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fix the valve cover leak while your fixing things
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fix the valve cover leak while your fixing things
the valve cover leak is fixed....but has nothing to do with the distributor. the distributor doesnt come apart like all the pictures says a H.O. is supposed to....but the wiring plug on the pick up doesnt match a renix plug either....the renix plugs are round this one is oval. im about to just give up on it....i needed this jeep running for this coming weekend and if it isnt its goin for sale. i dont have enough time to keep playing games with it.
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weber dgev34 carb and a hei conversion....wait no thats for a wrangler that don't run.....it's three wires and you don't seem to care about the truck CUT and SPLICE the new stuff will probablt last way longer than youll have the jeep
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the jeep is a renix correct did it run before you started this post i would say if its all renix buy the correct dist with the correct plug for the vechicle and install
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the jeep is a renix correct did it run before you started this post i would say if its all renix buy the correct dist with the correct plug for the vechicle and install
no,the jeep is not a renix. it is a 92 with the H.O. but i need to figure out what they have done before i can fix everything. when i look at pics of the renix distributor it looks just like the one in my pics.....but,the plug on the pick up on my dist. looks like the H.O. not the renix. the wiring plug on my harnes has been messed with...the plug on the pickup has not. the renix has to be removed in order to change the pick up...the h.o. doesnt. mine has to be removed. my real problem is that i dont have enough time to research and work on the jeep at the same time.
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Originally Posted by lost on a trail
the wiring plug on my harnes has been messed with...the plug on the pickup has not
I'm having a hard time understanding why you can't just cut and splice what ever harness you need, to what ever dizzy you want....I'm pretty sure they both use three wires...do you need to know what wire does what? What exactly do you need to know? It doesn't matter what the PO did or what kind of harness you have...You could just cut both harnesses off and use bullet connectors and forget the difference between the HO and the Renix harness all together. THe PO obviously f'd something up(PO's usually do), so forget why he did it and just fix it, so you can have fun with your jeep!
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Originally Posted by EVcherokee
I'm having a hard time understanding why you can't just cut and splice what ever harness you need, to what ever dizzy you want....I'm pretty sure they both use three wires...do you need to know what wire does what? What exactly do you need to know? It doesn't matter what the PO did or what kind of harness you have...You could just cut both harnesses off and use bullet connectors and forget the difference between the HO and the Renix harness all together. THe PO obviously f'd something up(PO's usually do), so forget why he did it and just fix it, so you can have fun with your jeep!
because if i buy a new distributor and pick up and cut the plugs then there is no kind of warranty at all! im trying to put it back to a configuration where i dont have to keep playing the game of cant remember what was done and why....its better to make it right than to half *** it and have more problems later. i guess i just must have asked too many questions. i guess i could always beat a distributor into from a big block ford and rig it up to run and then pass it off to someone else.....or i could just fix it right. my main question has been over looked.....it has the plug of a H.O. but the distributor is a renix....all i wanted to know is what distributor do i have or did someone manage to put some crap together and got lucky that it ran? the plug on the pick up has not been altered.
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Originally Posted by lost on a trail
because if i buy a new distributor and pick up and cut the plugs then there is no kind of warranty at all!
I'm not saying to cut the pickup harness, cut the one thats messed up

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im trying to put it back to a configuration where i dont have to keep playing the game of cant remember what was done and why....its better to make it right than to half *** it and have more problems later.
Thats what I'm saying, don't halfass it, make it like it just rolled off the line except for the butt connectors. If you can't get the HO harness for the engine side, use bullet connectors..next best thing

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i guess i could always beat a distributor into from a big block ford and rig it up to run and then pass it off to someone else
A Ford or GM dizzy will fit in a 4.0, but I don't think it will function on an HO EFI. I know for a fact a normal dizzy wiil not work on a Renix EFI and I don't think anything changed in regaurds to how the dizzy works when mopar introducted the HO. On a renix the dizzy doesn't have ANTHING to do with timing, instead it determines the timing index and the CPS determines timing and injector pulses.

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or i could just fix it right.
I agree

Originally Posted by lost on a trail
my main question has been over looked.....it has the plug of a H.O. but the distributor is a renix....all i wanted to know is what distributor do i have or did someone manage to put some crap together and got lucky that it ran? the plug on the pick up has not been altered.
Like I said, get your new dizzy and pickup, and compare the new with the old. If things are really FUBAR and you got something wierd going on, you'll see it. This ENTIRE repair, including getting parts(minus shipment to your store), would take me an hour or two if beer is involved.

The ONLY way to make it better than that is to go to the JY or the stealership and get an entire new engine harness. Thats will include all the wires coming out of the ECM(because the dizzy signal goes to the ECM harness) and take an hour or two to label and pull. Your making a mountain out of a mole hill, just replace the plug on the engine side, install the new dizzy and pickup, and hit the trails man!


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