Engine temp rises above normal at idle
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Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
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Engine temp rises above normal at idle
Search yielded one thread that I felt was relevant, but didn't really fully answer my question.
With the cooler weather lately, I haven't had to use the AC, so at lights and when stopped, I notice the engine temp gets up over the normal midway point on the guage cluster. Its drops back down to normal when moving again.
Fan comes on when AC is on, so I am assuming its not fan related.
Jeep has 128K miles. I am not sure of the maintenance history, so I have started to address items one at a time.
You guys think it may be one of the following:
- thermostat
- coolant flush
- water pump
- anything else?
Hoses look to have been replaced not too long ago. I did notice the serp belt will need to be replaced soon......not sure of relevance to this issue, but figured I'd mention it.
Any info is appreciated. Thanks!
With the cooler weather lately, I haven't had to use the AC, so at lights and when stopped, I notice the engine temp gets up over the normal midway point on the guage cluster. Its drops back down to normal when moving again.
Fan comes on when AC is on, so I am assuming its not fan related.
Jeep has 128K miles. I am not sure of the maintenance history, so I have started to address items one at a time.
You guys think it may be one of the following:
- thermostat
- coolant flush
- water pump
- anything else?
Hoses look to have been replaced not too long ago. I did notice the serp belt will need to be replaced soon......not sure of relevance to this issue, but figured I'd mention it.
Any info is appreciated. Thanks!
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From: Keesler AFB, MS
Year: 1998 XJ
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Search yielded one thread that I felt was relevant, but didn't really fully answer my question.
With the cooler weather lately, I haven't had to use the AC, so at lights and when stopped, I notice the engine temp gets up over the normal midway point on the guage cluster. Its drops back down to normal when moving again.
Fan comes on when AC is on, so I am assuming its not fan related.
Jeep has 128K miles. I am not sure of the maintenance history, so I have started to address items one at a time.
You guys think it may be one of the following:
- thermostat
- coolant flush
- water pump
- anything else?
Hoses look to have been replaced not too long ago. I did notice the serp belt will need to be replaced soon......not sure of relevance to this issue, but figured I'd mention it.
Any info is appreciated. Thanks!
With the cooler weather lately, I haven't had to use the AC, so at lights and when stopped, I notice the engine temp gets up over the normal midway point on the guage cluster. Its drops back down to normal when moving again.
Fan comes on when AC is on, so I am assuming its not fan related.
Jeep has 128K miles. I am not sure of the maintenance history, so I have started to address items one at a time.
You guys think it may be one of the following:
- thermostat
- coolant flush
- water pump
- anything else?
Hoses look to have been replaced not too long ago. I did notice the serp belt will need to be replaced soon......not sure of relevance to this issue, but figured I'd mention it.
Any info is appreciated. Thanks!
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From: NYC
Year: 1996
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From: The Republic of TEXAS
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
For sure replace the mechanical fan clutch, rad cap and possibly the radiator. Does the a/c condenser have bent fins, filled with mud? Is your gauge divided up like this?
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Not an off-roader, so no mud on the fins.
Rad shows no signs of damage or extended age, so what's the reasoning on changing that out? Just curious....
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Think I am gonna pass on the local seller.....$30 for a can is a bit much for me.
Found someone selling a 2 pack kit with 1 free can of BG MOA. Any comments on this BG product? Do you just add in a can when you change the oil?
Found someone selling a 2 pack kit with 1 free can of BG MOA. Any comments on this BG product? Do you just add in a can when you change the oil?
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From: Keesler AFB, MS
Year: 1998 XJ
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
So there it is, Your E fan should come on at 218 without the AC. And if your temp start to drop when your efan comes on then it sounds like all systems work fine besides the part that tells your Efan to turn on. I can't think of the name but i think its the temperature sending unit. If that part name is wrong, someone will correct me.
Now i would not buy that part till someone confirms that the temp sending unit is what causes you fan to come on at 218
Edited ; Actually i just looked up the temp sending unit and got that its only job is to report the temp (should have been common sense, lol)
So someone please post what the part is called that tells you efan to come on around 218
Thanks
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From: Keesler AFB, MS
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From: The Republic of TEXAS
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
The main rad fan is belt driven, the secondary rad fan is electric. The main fan has a viscous clutch and the clutch won't last but maybe 3-5 years and should be replaced. The main rad fan (belt driven) moves the most air unless the clutch is weak/bad.
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From: Detroit, MI
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I've got a new, stock radiator and all other related parts are fine. Mine sits on 210 unless it's idling for some time, then creeps up until the electric fan comes on around 220 and then sinks back down to 210. Periodically, driving down the road, I'll notice it is below 210...but no usually.
This is, IMO, perfect. It is Normal.
This is, IMO, perfect. It is Normal.