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Old 09-09-2015 | 09:42 PM
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Can not see any crack in head with valve cove off.
That means less than a politician's promise.


Originally Posted by madmanmarty
Firestorm, I live in PA with high humidity also.
But I want to be very clear with what I found in the rockers.
It was not water.
It was a good amount of oil on top of a thin layer of "milky cream" on bottom.
It is water.

It's not condensation.

It's from a serious engine failure. Cracked block, cracked head, blown head gasket, or similar. With 110 lbs of compression and water in the oil, your engine is toast.

You can face that now, or you can face it later. Your choice.
Old 09-09-2015 | 09:47 PM
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Funny,I don't get cell phone coverage at my house either.
To be serious ,my son got 3 miles from our house tops,knew something didn't feel right (brakes were not releasing),turned around,& as he pulled in driveway the idiot light light came on (no gauge). So it wasn't spewing coolant,but leaking from radiator. Rad is shot. After looking at it I don't know how it wasn't leaking before.
Any suggestions?
Old 09-09-2015 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueRidgeMark
That means less than a politician's promise.




It is water.

It's not condensation.

It's from a serious engine failure. Cracked block, cracked head, blown head gasket, or similar. With 110 lbs of compression and water in the oil, your engine is toast.

You can face that now, or you can face it later. Your choice.
Pretty much all of this.
Edit: The Blackstone oil test should confirm that is lots of coolant.

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Old 09-09-2015 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by madmanmarty
Any suggestions?
Put the valve cover back on it and fill the cooling system with antifreeze, drive it & see how long it lasts.
Old 09-09-2015 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by madmanmarty
Any suggestions?

Do the oil test before you sink another dime into it.
Old 09-09-2015 | 11:16 PM
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Put the valve cover back on it and fill the cooling system with antifreeze, drive it & see how long it lasts.
Hopefully it'll last long enough to get it to a car dealership and trade it off.
Old 09-09-2015 | 11:25 PM
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Hopefully it'll last long enough to get it to a car dealership and trade it off.
If not, they make a thingy called a flatbed.
Old 09-09-2015 | 11:35 PM
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If not, they make a thingy called a flatbed.
Yeah, I almost mentioned that.

He can unload it just around the block from the stealership, then drive it in.
Old 09-10-2015 | 08:10 AM
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Let's be real here. A new to you motor is going to run in th eneighborhood of $400 with warranty. Installation varies. If the motor is toast, put one that isn't in it. I'd still pressure test and leakdown to see how bad everything is. Although, 110 psi is low. Being that it's the same on all cylinders rings are going.

I'd still test and see. Worst case, throw a re-manned head on it. If it doesn't run right after that, pull the head off and get a new motor. Slap your new head on the new short block and move on. Plan to be down a vehicle for 2-3 weeks.

If none of this is possible or desire able, trade it in on something with a warranty.
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Thanks guys,some very good suggestions.
That's what I was hoping for. Real world help from fellow members.
Im bummed. With only 109k,and meticulous maintenance from 2nd PO ago (100k of its life), I am shocked it's having this many problems.
I'll work thru this,and keep you informed.
Old 09-10-2015 | 10:54 AM
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All the meticulous maintenance in the world doesn't keep the 0331 head from cracking.

I'm assuming it is a 2000-01 for some reason. I looked back through the posts, and I don't see a mention of a year model.

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Old 09-10-2015 | 11:20 AM
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Says '94 below is avatar. And the only photos of his says '94.


Sure doesn't sound good no matter what year though.
Old 09-10-2015 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by madmanmarty
With only 109k,and meticulous maintenance from 2nd PO ago (100k of its life), I am shocked it's having this many problems.

What you have described is not compatible with "meticulous maintenance".


However, it IS compatible with little or no maintenance, coupled with either a deluded or dishonest PO. Could be either. Some people think filling it with gas and taking it to Jiffy Lube every few thousand miles is "meticulous maintenance".
Old 09-11-2015 | 09:20 AM
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I know.
It does not make any sense.
The PO did his normal maintenance,but did not complete repairs as I think are necessary. For example,jeep overheated once. He and his dad(mechanical),replaced the water pump and nothing else. No thermostat,belt,nothing. Ran the jeep for many months prior to me buying,and ran great when I bought.
The PO prior to him (100k miles), left all kinds of receipts for different service from a jeep dealer.
I ran the jeep up and down my road (1/2 mile) for months before starting to dig into some issues. Oil filter adapter leak,starter because of leak,heater blower motor and resister. Nothing went right. Couldn't break the adapter bolt,wrong blower motor twice. So the jeep did not move except for start-ups from December to May. Financial issues and a Tacoma waiting for a frame kept the jeep off the road until last month. Was only driven daily for a week before the brakes locked, overheated and here we are.
I could not see the radiator issue until I pulled the mechanical fan shroud. It was corroded and shot.
So the plan is a buddy is coming over,we are pulling the head to replace the head gasket and inspect. I'll keep everyone informed.
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Originally Posted by madmanmarty
So the jeep did not move except for start-ups from December to May.
I'm no expert, but that sure sounds like the perfect recipe to get enough condensation built up in the oil to turn it cloudy. If you're going to park it, especially in the cold months, better to not start it all, unless you're going to get it up to operating temp for a decent amount of time. Just letting it idle, especially on a cold winter day, will not burn off the previous moisture, and when you shut it off, it will just add more from the new condensation.



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