Expedition 1990 Xj
#16
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From: East Texas
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Straight 6
What kind of "expeditions" are you doing/plan on doing? That is a key question you need to know before going to far down any repair/upgrade road. Are we talking long distance (mulitiple day, thousands of miles) or just regional camping trip outings? Range sucks with Cherokees eith them being small with a small tank and being a gas hog. You need to seriously think of those things as priority item. Then look at isolation as an aspect. Do you need to build it for super reliability and keep lots of extra parts and tires on board? Are you going solo on these expeditions?
Expedition vehicles take lots of planning.
Expedition vehicles take lots of planning.
winch
on board air
high lift jack
off road bumpers
roof rack
same size spare
tool box with tools and extra parts
im thinking a 4-6 inch lift kit long arm
looking to be able to drive to the location be it desert, snow, woodlands or swamp and pull a trailer whenever needed
#17
but anyway, wherever your goin, if your goin by yourself, definitely bring a full set of tools AND spare parts, cannot stress that enough lol. i do a lot of long range, solo, pointA to PointB type of wheeling, i love it. me personally; in my hatch you'll find:
-alternator
-jumpbox (or spare battery, i swear, youd be surprised what could cause you to need it)
-starter
-various sensors, such as TPS, CPS, sync sensor, & MAP sensor, a few extra sparkplugs & wires
-a long piece of radiator hose & clamps, an extra wheel hub, lugnuts, wheelstuds, ujoints, extra bolts/nuts, tire plugs & slime.
-supplies such as duct tape, wd40, sealant, grease, extra wiring (jumpers cables too, in case you need to hack up some wire to use for your starter or battery cable or somethin) hacksaw, boltcutters, a hammer
-air compressor, a ****** strap, a tow strap & a 8k lb come-along (cant afford a winch yet lol) & hi-lift jack
-CELL PHONE CHARGER !!! and a knife or somethin in case a hog or a gator comes after u while your tryin to fix ur jeep (no biggie, it happens)
and of course, every wrench, socket, puller, and other tools needed to dissasemble the entire jeep. theres a ton of **** i forgot to mention, but it all (tools & parts) fits neatly into 2 suitcases. except my jump pack. (thats right i said suitcases lol).
understandably you may not want to go wheeling with all that ****, but when you're out in the middle of frikkin nowhere all by your self, and inacessible to tow trucks, thats when you'll thank ur lucky stars you were prepared
Last edited by rompnXJ; 09-13-2012 at 07:38 PM.
#18
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From: East Texas
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Straight 6
they have all that in texas ?? holy crackers lol
but anyway, wherever your goin, if your goin by yourself, definitely bring a full set of tools AND spare parts, cannot stress that enough lol. i do a lot of long range, solo, pointA to PointB type of wheeling, i love it. me personally; in my hatch you'll find:
-alternator
-jumpbox (or spare battery, i swear, youd be surprised what could cause you to need it)
-starter
-various sensors, such as TPS, CPS, sync sensor, & MAP sensor, a few extra sparkplugs & wires
-a long piece of radiator hose & clamps, an extra wheel hub, lugnuts, wheelstuds, ujoints, extra bolts/nuts, tire plugs & slime.
-supplies such as duct tape, wd40, sealant, grease, extra wiring (jumpers cables too, in case you need to hack up some wire to use for your starter or battery cable or somethin) hacksaw, boltcutters, a hammer
-air compressor, a ****** strap, a tow strap & a 8k lb come-along (cant afford a winch yet lol) & hi-lift jack
-CELL PHONE CHARGER !!! and a knife or somethin in case a hog or a gator comes after u while your tryin to fix ur jeep (no biggie, it happens)
and of course, every wrench, socket, puller, and other tools needed to dissasemble the entire jeep. theres a ton of **** i forgot to mention, but it all (tools & parts) fits neatly into 2 suitcases. except my jump pack. (thats right i said suitcases lol).
understandably you may not want to go wheeling with all that ****, but when you're out in the middle of frikkin nowhere all by your self, and inacessible to tow trucks, thats when you'll thank ur lucky stars you were prepared
but anyway, wherever your goin, if your goin by yourself, definitely bring a full set of tools AND spare parts, cannot stress that enough lol. i do a lot of long range, solo, pointA to PointB type of wheeling, i love it. me personally; in my hatch you'll find:
-alternator
-jumpbox (or spare battery, i swear, youd be surprised what could cause you to need it)
-starter
-various sensors, such as TPS, CPS, sync sensor, & MAP sensor, a few extra sparkplugs & wires
-a long piece of radiator hose & clamps, an extra wheel hub, lugnuts, wheelstuds, ujoints, extra bolts/nuts, tire plugs & slime.
-supplies such as duct tape, wd40, sealant, grease, extra wiring (jumpers cables too, in case you need to hack up some wire to use for your starter or battery cable or somethin) hacksaw, boltcutters, a hammer
-air compressor, a ****** strap, a tow strap & a 8k lb come-along (cant afford a winch yet lol) & hi-lift jack
-CELL PHONE CHARGER !!! and a knife or somethin in case a hog or a gator comes after u while your tryin to fix ur jeep (no biggie, it happens)
and of course, every wrench, socket, puller, and other tools needed to dissasemble the entire jeep. theres a ton of **** i forgot to mention, but it all (tools & parts) fits neatly into 2 suitcases. except my jump pack. (thats right i said suitcases lol).
understandably you may not want to go wheeling with all that ****, but when you're out in the middle of frikkin nowhere all by your self, and inacessible to tow trucks, thats when you'll thank ur lucky stars you were prepared
#19
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From: Tampa, FL & DC/MD infrequently
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6
Ya, a real adventurer. i like it. Texas does have a lot pf varied terrain...so yeah, it has all that. West Texas is getting drier and drier all the time. Gettin close to the gulf coast certainly means the swamp is in play.
And for me, bedliner on the roof & hood because of that infamous Texas hail (which I love to intercept actually).
Certainly taking your time, and reading a lot about overland / expedition travellers from all makes would be a good idea. From tenting ideas, to fuel range, to keeping extra parts with, or easily gained (aka corner auto store in stock items), there is a lot to consider.
And for me, bedliner on the roof & hood because of that infamous Texas hail (which I love to intercept actually).
Certainly taking your time, and reading a lot about overland / expedition travellers from all makes would be a good idea. From tenting ideas, to fuel range, to keeping extra parts with, or easily gained (aka corner auto store in stock items), there is a lot to consider.
#21
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From: Oshkosh, WI.
Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
#22
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From: East Texas
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Straight 6
Ya, a real adventurer. i like it. Texas does have a lot pf varied terrain...so yeah, it has all that. West Texas is getting drier and drier all the time. Gettin close to the gulf coast certainly means the swamp is in play.
And for me, bedliner on the roof & hood because of that infamous Texas hail (which I love to intercept actually).
Certainly taking your time, and reading a lot about overland / expedition travellers from all makes would be a good idea. From tenting ideas, to fuel range, to keeping extra parts with, or easily gained (aka corner auto store in stock items), there is a lot to consider.
And for me, bedliner on the roof & hood because of that infamous Texas hail (which I love to intercept actually).
Certainly taking your time, and reading a lot about overland / expedition travellers from all makes would be a good idea. From tenting ideas, to fuel range, to keeping extra parts with, or easily gained (aka corner auto store in stock items), there is a lot to consider.
yea a lot of that
#23
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From: East Texas
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Straight 6
If you really want to add some horse power. http://www.shop.505performance.com/m...05catalog1.pdf
#24
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From: Oshkosh, WI.
Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I wouldn't do it, but shows you it is possible. (anything is possible with enough money) I myself would just get a 3" lift, some nice rims and tires. And then concentrate on maintenance.
#25
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From: East Texas
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Straight 6
true, i wouldnt mind being up higher though my friends had a 4.5 lift on his and i didnt sit that high he bottomed out a few time my zj had 3.5 on it and it set about the same im looking for major clearance and was eye balling the rustys 6 inch long arm they have
#26
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From: Oshkosh, WI.
Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
the higher it goes, the more it costs, and the more the DD gas mileage goes down. Along with road handling. And what you described you wanted, you'll be on the road a lot.
#27
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From: greenville, tx
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Higher also makes the XJ more tipsy off camber. (Ask me how I know, twice)
I went with the RE 6200 kit with adjustable arms, added the RE 3767 ends to the lowers on the axle end due to bushing wearing out very quickly.
Got the RE 1670 track bar brace along with the kit.
Added HD Engineering shackles relocation brackets.
Extended the rear bump stops.
Having trouble keeping front bump stops from coming out or busting (DayStar) during articulation.
Going to JKS Acos and RE 1310 4 1/2" springs with limit straps.
I have a very capable rig. Drives great on or off road. With off camber must be very careful. Only draw back of being tall in a XJ.
I say keep it around 4 1/2", long arms if you want.
I wouldn't go with Rusty's, don’t skimp on your lift!
BDS
Clayton
Rubicon Express
T&T Customs
Cost more but will save you in the long run out on the trail.
My drop brackets don’t cause any problems regarding hang ups and have only made contact with anything a couple of times. I’ve been to Super Lift in Arkansas, Clayton Oklahoma, BMRA in east TX and Bridgeport, TX more than a few times running mostly 4 & 5 rated trails.
I play hard with mine.
May change springs to 3 ½" front & rear to lower it some more. Will see after putting on the limit straps on the front.
Just my opinion.
I went with the RE 6200 kit with adjustable arms, added the RE 3767 ends to the lowers on the axle end due to bushing wearing out very quickly.
Got the RE 1670 track bar brace along with the kit.
Added HD Engineering shackles relocation brackets.
Extended the rear bump stops.
Having trouble keeping front bump stops from coming out or busting (DayStar) during articulation.
Going to JKS Acos and RE 1310 4 1/2" springs with limit straps.
I have a very capable rig. Drives great on or off road. With off camber must be very careful. Only draw back of being tall in a XJ.
I say keep it around 4 1/2", long arms if you want.
I wouldn't go with Rusty's, don’t skimp on your lift!
BDS
Clayton
Rubicon Express
T&T Customs
Cost more but will save you in the long run out on the trail.
My drop brackets don’t cause any problems regarding hang ups and have only made contact with anything a couple of times. I’ve been to Super Lift in Arkansas, Clayton Oklahoma, BMRA in east TX and Bridgeport, TX more than a few times running mostly 4 & 5 rated trails.
I play hard with mine.
May change springs to 3 ½" front & rear to lower it some more. Will see after putting on the limit straps on the front.
Just my opinion.
#28
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From: Minnesota
Year: 2001
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
You can rent satellite phones for if you get in trouble. Then it only has to be pretty reliable.
well looking to go anywhere at anytime and be self reliable theres a few things i know ill have on the rig
winch
on board air
high lift jack
off road bumpers
roof rack
same size spare
tool box with tools and extra parts
im thinking a 4-6 inch lift kit long arm
looking to be able to drive to the location be it desert, snow, woodlands or swamp and pull a trailer whenever needed
winch
on board air
high lift jack
off road bumpers
roof rack
same size spare
tool box with tools and extra parts
im thinking a 4-6 inch lift kit long arm
looking to be able to drive to the location be it desert, snow, woodlands or swamp and pull a trailer whenever needed
#29
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From: East Texas
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Straight 6
Higher also makes the XJ more tipsy off camber. (Ask me how I know, twice)
I went with the RE 6200 kit with adjustable arms, added the RE 3767 ends to the lowers on the axle end due to bushing wearing out very quickly.
Got the RE 1670 track bar brace along with the kit.
Added HD Engineering shackles relocation brackets.
Extended the rear bump stops.
Having trouble keeping front bump stops from coming out or busting (DayStar) during articulation.
Going to JKS Acos and RE 1310 4 1/2" springs with limit straps.
I have a very capable rig. Drives great on or off road. With off camber must be very careful. Only draw back of being tall in a XJ.
I say keep it around 4 1/2", long arms if you want.
I wouldn't go with Rusty's, don’t skimp on your lift!
BDS
Clayton
Rubicon Express
T&T Customs
Cost more but will save you in the long run out on the trail.
My drop brackets don’t cause any problems regarding hang ups and have only made contact with anything a couple of times. I’ve been to Super Lift in Arkansas, Clayton Oklahoma, BMRA in east TX and Bridgeport, TX more than a few times running mostly 4 & 5 rated trails.
I play hard with mine.
May change springs to 3 ½" front & rear to lower it some more. Will see after putting on the limit straps on the front.
Just my opinion.
I went with the RE 6200 kit with adjustable arms, added the RE 3767 ends to the lowers on the axle end due to bushing wearing out very quickly.
Got the RE 1670 track bar brace along with the kit.
Added HD Engineering shackles relocation brackets.
Extended the rear bump stops.
Having trouble keeping front bump stops from coming out or busting (DayStar) during articulation.
Going to JKS Acos and RE 1310 4 1/2" springs with limit straps.
I have a very capable rig. Drives great on or off road. With off camber must be very careful. Only draw back of being tall in a XJ.
I say keep it around 4 1/2", long arms if you want.
I wouldn't go with Rusty's, don’t skimp on your lift!
BDS
Clayton
Rubicon Express
T&T Customs
Cost more but will save you in the long run out on the trail.
My drop brackets don’t cause any problems regarding hang ups and have only made contact with anything a couple of times. I’ve been to Super Lift in Arkansas, Clayton Oklahoma, BMRA in east TX and Bridgeport, TX more than a few times running mostly 4 & 5 rated trails.
I play hard with mine.
May change springs to 3 ½" front & rear to lower it some more. Will see after putting on the limit straps on the front.
Just my opinion.
#30
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From: thompson,okanogan,shushwap area in central British columbian
Year: 91 laredo
Model: Cherokee
Engine: HO 4l
when purchsing a lift remember your realy ground clearance comes from tires, iv got a rustys 3" short arm kit (hvnt put in yet) i plan on chopping the fenders up and DIY flares to fit 34 or 35" tires ,,, keeps center of grav low and have for my needs good clearance... my jeeps stock righ now but iv gotten it up and down a few cliffhangers to my belief to center of gravity...
also the tool i use the most out of all my trail resources is a chaisaw. to some like winching it can be cheeting but i have no problem with it in a stock jeep, i use the saw more than anything else...a few times to make bridges over deactivation ditches in canadian rockeys.. with that you need separet gas and oil (oil for gas and chain) and a few more basic tools for the saw itself.
also the tool i use the most out of all my trail resources is a chaisaw. to some like winching it can be cheeting but i have no problem with it in a stock jeep, i use the saw more than anything else...a few times to make bridges over deactivation ditches in canadian rockeys.. with that you need separet gas and oil (oil for gas and chain) and a few more basic tools for the saw itself.