Tom95YJ

90% of all expedition rigs run 31-33" tires they can take you lots of places with good tire placement and a spotter. IMO the hubs and front axle shafts are not strong enough on the d30 for 35's. Locked. Not to mention you won't have much up travel cause of the amount of bumpstopping required. I have 33's on a 3.5" lift and I had to trim and bumpstop a lot. 35's wouldn't be worth the extra inch of clearance

diego94

i currently use mine mostly for camping but dont plan on it being only being an expedition truck i was just giving an example of wut i aim for. i am up for the fab and am doing my axle research... both fourwheeler and jp mags have multiple projects that they are trying to bring up to 37" tires with the jk dana 30, i plan on a similar aproach that they are taking and the jk d30 swap, this i so far the avenue i am interested in taking for myself.

Tom95YJ

The with the price And amount of fab needed to install a jk d30 built for 37's it is a waste of money it's still a d30 for the work needed I would goto the junkyard and get a d60 regear it and install it. And it will be loads stronger then the jk30 and have bigger brakes too

diego94

msg me i dont want to take up to much space in this thread but deffinetly want to continue our conversation

Greybush

you guys didnt have to discontinue the conversation its actually good info at the moment because like everything everybody has their own opinions about everything, as for a chainsaw most places i know of wouldnt allow people to chop down trees and i dont think that would be a really safe item to have in the back and a lot of space would be taken up as well, as for tire size i dont plane on going any bigger then 33s any bigger would just be over kill

diego94

with the chainsaw to clarify i do go for the deadfall first (it does take u space i have a separet tool box for it )... i live in British columbia right up against crown land, its filled with all sorts of ancient and new roads everything from ; abandoned logging and mining roads, roads to cell and internet towers, recreatinal quading trails, most of the sick trails are century old horse logging roads that are surprisingly still there.. the chainsaw isnt just for making bridges but clearing deadfall from the trail, and like a winch can kind many uses for it.

i have a 95 1500 dodge ram thts unroad worthy rght now sitting at my place with fullsize dana44 front and dana 60 rear... considered for a minute but i want proper width axles to keep it street legal and shortening them is beyond my skill so i didnt even look into the budget part, although with the d30 examples i mentoned earlyer i woundnt copy them but take my preferences from my faves, there not tough to find on the fourwheeler or jp mag websites.. another swap i heard was common is the front d44 from a bronco or ford pickup where some old ones have an acceptable width for someone debating full width or stock width leaning toward stock

Greybush

im not looking to swap axles if anything i will regear them and put lockers in and beef up the axles

diego94

ok ya thats the avenue im wandering down. these are my references for my project
http://www.fourwheeler.com/techartic...axles_survive/
http://www.fourwheeler.com/techartic..._44_axle_swap/
http://www.fourwheeler.com/techartic...35_axle_parts/
http://www.fourwheeler.com/techartic...er_tj_dana_35/
there was 1 more from i think an 2008 mag i lent a friend a wile back that i cant find.

diego94

another thing im looking into beefing up is the t-case, right now im looking for a douber, iv heard there is one for an np231/231 but i dont know who makes it... also iv heard that the np241 in 2nd gen v8 dodge rams is a near bolt in swap that featurs a beefyer chain and 4:1 low gear.. i dont know what other vehicls the np241 can be found in.

Tom95YJ

The 241 does not have a 4:1 IMO if your wanting to do a doubler for the price your better off with a stakk 3 speed t case or atlas4 they are gear driven and allow for 2low and fwd or rwd only or both. And not weak like a chain driven 231 or 241

diego94

yes if i had the money id throw 1ton axles a gigantic diesel and of course an almighty atlas4, all these suggestions are much stronger than what im talking about and will without a doubt take the beating, im doing what im talking about to fit my budget and needs. not saying every1 elses needs and uses are the same as mine im just providing an example.

what do you have under your rig tom?

Greybush

good information, im considering the rustys 6 inch long arm at the moment for the suspension travel and after all the weight that will be in it it should bring it down to 5-5.5 inches

Greybush

got some poser flexes going on put some water in it and filled up the oil today and drove it down the road to get some fuel, its got some good power to it sounds like it has a little miss so im going with wires and spark plugs and i could tell it had the infamous cracked jeep header so anybody got any place they know of that sells performance style but still at a reasonable price

Greybush

also stripped out the old nasty carpet that was all mildew and smelled horrible going to scuff up the floor and coat it with some bed liner and drill a few drain holes in the floor board, i was actually pretty suprised on the amount of rust the front didnt have much if any at all just the rear above the gas tank which is pretty notorious for mud getting stuck at heres a few before and after pictures of the floor

84zmyfavorite

I think I would change the old engine oil, if you havent already. I never, I said never leave whatever engine oil there is in a New Jeep I get. This is the first thing I do. Might be 5w-20 or Hydraulic fluid for all you know, or might be Mobil 1 10w-30 Extended Performance, You just Dont Know, Do You?