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Old 09-22-2010, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Irongrave
though I'm busy this weekend my friends say I live by this line "have saw will travel"
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thank a bunch anyway
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Originally Posted by shadowlm15
try a blow torch.. if u heat ur the bolt red hot it will slightly expand and maybe break the rust loose alil.
Oh yeah, I have not done that, but thought about it. The reason I "gave up" at this point is also as I think (not 100% sure though) that the bolt is jammed at the hat side in the bracket hole and in the hole of that "inside adjusting bracket" (don't know what the tech. name for it). I'd imagine that a very slight dent (groove like) in the bolt and/or in the hole(s) plus years of rusting - alltogether makes it nearly imposible to knock out the bolt.
I am not sure if my "description" of the possible situation makes any sense ...heh heh , a picture would do, but there'll be no picture as it's all sealed
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ok, guys, some "updates" here
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Today I've got to it again, got the jeep on stands, removed the axle side bolt and nut on the "frame" side. Spent some time trying to move that bolt again ..heh heh ...no way in hell, but I've managed to move the arm down so got a bit better access and view, removed some rubber with a small hand saw. Made some pics (see attached).
Then spent the rest of the day at homedep , they've got some few choices there, well, I've got the red one That is a one cool weapon, I must say, it's about time I've got one

So I'm thinking I am ready to shred ... will do tomorrow, hope to post some pics.
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the weapon here
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very nice weapon there, cant go wrong with a corded Milwaukee. my dad and I have a few of those
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Be careful with that thing. Its evil twin brother just slamed my right hand into the concrete. I have had to cut both upper control arm bolts off on the frame side. No a fun night.
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Be careful with that thing. Its evil twin brother just slamed my right hand into the concrete. I have had to cut both upper control arm bolts off on the frame side. No a fun night.
Thanks a bunch for that. I took the note. How's your hand? Hope not too bad. Yep. that 'machine' can kickback pretty hard

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OK, guys, I've got an update with some pics. Will post within next few mins. I hope all this stuff may be helpful for someone who may face the situation for the first time as I was.

This is actually from yesterday, also did not have much time.
Today I've cleaned up the brackets of rust and crap, treated with POR-15 stuff, that process takes time too, so I'll be installing the arms only tomorrow.

So, new will post some cutting pics and comments....
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First I've used the hand drywall saw to remove all the rubber that I could. I'd say to do so is pretty important, as the rubber does not like to be cut by metal blade and jams the blade and burns and "misguides" the blade.
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Now, I've made this pic to demonstrate the "situation".
First of all I must say that from what I understand cutting the bolt like this would be against many "guidelines" from manual for Sawzall, and there's a good amount of risk to get hurt.
On the picture, as you see, I've clamped a cut of sheet metal to be used just as visual guide only. This helped somewhat to see where to hold the sawzall, so the blade does not hit the "wall" when extended and does not slide off the bolt when retracted.
The problem is, that "ideally" when cutting you should press the pivot shoe agains the surface/or part of the workpiece. But in this situation it is not an option. In addition there's no way to realy hold the sawzall well. Well it is really not a fun job.

If somebody will be using a sawzall for the first time, I'd say, at least practice on something else first and get the feel of the 'machine'

Do not get too excited at high speed .
AND!!!!! When cutting MAKE SURE that the blade COMPLETELY STOPS before start removing it from a partial (incomplete) cut . It is actually in the manual, but can be ignored ...and that's how you may get a real bad kickback.
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So after wasting two shorter blades, I switched to longer blades , those also gave me a bit more flexablility, as the control arm got on the way a bit.
I have to tell you - it was not like cutting butter at all ...heh heh... bolts are pretty tough.
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here are closeups of the bolt being completely seized inside the sleeve
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will post updates later after installing the new arms.
I'll be installing new arms with rubber bushings, but I think I am going to also insert the poly thrust washers from Energy Suspension bushings kit. It looks like would make sense. Not 100% sure about it though....


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Originally Posted by Dr ZEE
Thanks a bunch for that. I took the note. How's your hand? Hope not too bad. Yep. that 'machine' can kickback pretty hard .
Hands getting better. Getting some strength back in my grip a little bit. And yeah dont read the warnings in the manuals. Just about everything you want to do with power tools is outlawed in the guidelines. Looks like you are making progress though. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Dr ZEE
here are closeups of the bolt being completely seized inside the sleeve


That’s the one thing that has always bothered me about servicing my own vehicles. 1¢ worth of anti seize when assembled @ the factory and that never would have happened.


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Originally Posted by The Black
Hands getting better. Getting some strength back in my grip a little bit. And yeah dont read the warnings in the manuals. Just about everything you want to do with power tools is outlawed in the guidelines. Looks like you are making progress though. Good luck.
Ahhhhh, glad to hear that your bones are in one piece.
Yeah, well, it's true about "warnings" in respect to what needs to be done. One should remember, however, that it ain't a joke. So, at least, take time and think well before pulling the trigger.

Now, as for progress...huh huh , yeah, some but not as I wish.
I've got one arm installed today (not tight yet, of course), moved to the other side and, guess what ... - yep, exactly the same situation there. Except now everything in reverse (like in the mirror) which makes everything harder for a right handed guy. I gave it a rest for today, will be cutting tomorrow with a bit more fresh mind, also I have only one good blade left

Made some pics, so will post maybe later tonight, this will show how I installed those "thrust washes" and some other things I had to deal with.
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