Head Gasket- Pay a mechanic or DIY?
#32
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From: Lost in the wilds of Virginia
Year: 1998 Classic (I'll get it running soon....) and 02 Grand
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Everything for the head gasket, $85.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/FPBHS9076PT3
Valve cover gasket, $38.
https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/FPBVS50458R
#33
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From: Southern Texas (former AZ & Aus)
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: I6 4.0L
Whenever I get a new (to me) used vehicle of any kind... I always have that undefined "break-in trust" period. To where I've had it in enough normal situations that I get a decent overall sense of the true condition after purchase. If it were me, and you know you have a gremlin like that already... I personally wouldn't roll the dice on a trip like that with it just yet. But that's just MHO on it.
#35
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From: San Diego
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0 I6
Does that oil color look right to you guys? I know the pics aren’t great but I’m starting to think the head could have cracked since I bought it.
#37
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From: Groton, MA
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: I6 4.0L
That is a beautiful XJ. If the body looks as clean and well kept as the engine compartment, you have a true gem!
I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned more directly, but if you're not aware the 00-01 Jeep I6 4.0L's had a serious casting defect in the head (the head stamp is 0331) that causes the head to crack. I'm nothing close to an expert, but if you're even -talking- about doing a head gasket on a 00-01, you should commit to the full head replacement. There are a lot of quality options - the one mentioned early on in this thread seems to have a good reputation and folks seem happy with it, so that's what I'd do.
It's a little more $$, but on the bright side you don't have to worry about all that valve stuff or machining the head to make sure it's true to spec. Then you also can be rest assured that you're not sitting on a ticking time bomb.
On a side note, I put 305k miles on a TJ with the 0331 head and never had any issue with cracking or head gasket problems. The worst thing I had was a broken valve spring when I was 500 miles from home on a business trip. It threw a "critical" CEL (flashing light) but it limped back to the hotel and then limped to the repair shop.
I'm surprised it hasn't been mentioned more directly, but if you're not aware the 00-01 Jeep I6 4.0L's had a serious casting defect in the head (the head stamp is 0331) that causes the head to crack. I'm nothing close to an expert, but if you're even -talking- about doing a head gasket on a 00-01, you should commit to the full head replacement. There are a lot of quality options - the one mentioned early on in this thread seems to have a good reputation and folks seem happy with it, so that's what I'd do.
It's a little more $$, but on the bright side you don't have to worry about all that valve stuff or machining the head to make sure it's true to spec. Then you also can be rest assured that you're not sitting on a ticking time bomb.
On a side note, I put 305k miles on a TJ with the 0331 head and never had any issue with cracking or head gasket problems. The worst thing I had was a broken valve spring when I was 500 miles from home on a business trip. It threw a "critical" CEL (flashing light) but it limped back to the hotel and then limped to the repair shop.
#38
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From: San Diego
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0 I6
May have some bad news. i just took it to get an oil change and the guy said the oil has a greenish tint to it and thinks the guy put some sort of product in it to reduce an engine knock because once he changed the oil it seems to be knocking. I haven't picked it up yet to hear but it doesn't seem like any good news......My buddy said if it is a knock low in the engine then I basically need to replace the engine......I'm praying that is not the case.
Wish me luck
Wish me luck
#39
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Ok so I just picked it up and there is a slight tapping, nothing like the way he described it and it goes away when I hit the gas. He gave me a cup of the oil that was drained and it has a greenish tint to it, doesn't look normal. he was saying he thinks they put one of those fluids to reduce engine noise or something in it. I will upload a pic of the oil when I can free up space on my phone to take the pic.
I'll also try to get a video of the the engine noise.
I'll also try to get a video of the the engine noise.
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From: Northern New Mexico
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Ok so I just picked it up and there is a slight tapping, nothing like the way he described it and it goes away when I hit the gas. He gave me a cup of the oil that was drained and it has a greenish tint to it, doesn't look normal. he was saying he thinks they put one of those fluids to reduce engine noise or something in it. I will upload a pic of the oil when I can free up space on my phone to take the pic.
I'll also try to get a video of the the engine noise.
I'll also try to get a video of the the engine noise.
#41
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From: Maine
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 Power Tec
Keep your chin up RealDeal. Motor work is better than body work IMO. Throw a new Clearwater head on and enjoy your XJ. Then you'll have the satisfaction of knowing you have a clean looking and running XJ.
Oh and for those who saw I had the same issue: I do not have a cracked head. -Sorry OP- Took it into my trusted Jeep shop and had the HG replaced. While there the motor was examined from bow to stern and got excellent results. I was going to put a new head on while there but I was assured there was really no need giving the condition of my internals. This shop has seen there fair share of cracked 0331s and said I was in the clear. Happy to have Sully back on the road and purrs like a happy cat.
Oh and for those who saw I had the same issue: I do not have a cracked head. -Sorry OP- Took it into my trusted Jeep shop and had the HG replaced. While there the motor was examined from bow to stern and got excellent results. I was going to put a new head on while there but I was assured there was really no need giving the condition of my internals. This shop has seen there fair share of cracked 0331s and said I was in the clear. Happy to have Sully back on the road and purrs like a happy cat.
#42
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From: San Diego
Year: 2000
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Keep your chin up RealDeal. Motor work is better than body work IMO. Throw a new Clearwater head on and enjoy your XJ. Then you'll have the satisfaction of knowing you have a clean looking and running XJ.
Oh and for those who saw I had the same issue: I do not have a cracked head. -Sorry OP- Took it into my trusted Jeep shop and had the HG replaced. While there the motor was examined from bow to stern and got excellent results. I was going to put a new head on while there but I was assured there was really no need giving the condition of my internals. This shop has seen there fair share of cracked 0331s and said I was in the clear. Happy to have Sully back on the road and purrs like a happy cat.
Oh and for those who saw I had the same issue: I do not have a cracked head. -Sorry OP- Took it into my trusted Jeep shop and had the HG replaced. While there the motor was examined from bow to stern and got excellent results. I was going to put a new head on while there but I was assured there was really no need giving the condition of my internals. This shop has seen there fair share of cracked 0331s and said I was in the clear. Happy to have Sully back on the road and purrs like a happy cat.
Thanks bud, I'm trying to not get frustrated. I'm never gonna hear the end of it from the wife if I have to replace the engine. haha
here are some pics of the oil.
#43
I used the complete head set but they do sell just a head gasket. It's really nice layered steel. I had used Victor Reinz on my Mercedes and was happy with it so went with it for the Jeep too.
#44
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From: San Diego
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: 4.0 I6
My 01 is doing the exact same thing yours is. Pictures almost look identical. This is even after I replaced the valve cover gasket, oil filter adapter o rings, and resealed the oil pressure sending unit. seeping from the HG enough to be noticeable after drives. Leaves a little puddle on the ground after it heats up, rolls back to the trans bell housing and falls to the ground.
I selected to replace my HG because my chief doesnt like me leaving a jeep pee puddle in the fire barn..
Interesting to hear you have the exact same (looking) symptoms. I suppose I could just run it but I'm the type of guy who likes the satisfaction of fixing any quirks I can.
Plus I have a ticking noise just at idle that I think will require some head work while I'm in there...
I selected to replace my HG because my chief doesnt like me leaving a jeep pee puddle in the fire barn..
Interesting to hear you have the exact same (looking) symptoms. I suppose I could just run it but I'm the type of guy who likes the satisfaction of fixing any quirks I can.
Plus I have a ticking noise just at idle that I think will require some head work while I'm in there...
i just started getting a ticking noise at idle also but it goes away when I hit the throttle. Can’t tell wether it is low or high in the engine.
#45
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From: Maine
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 Power Tec
Here's a link for a new head:
Keep us posted and keeping our fingers crossed for you man!