Help diagnose front end issue please...
#16
If you do a ton of highway driving then yes they do work and are fine to have on your rig. I never hit the interstate with my rig so they aren't needed. And yes this is why they make disconnects. No need to be a dick about it. As far as steering stabilizers go they are not a cure for the wobble they are there to soften sharp blows in a sense to the steering from bumps and such. The wobble comes from the main front end parts being worn out. In most cases it's worn ball joints because it's the hardest part of the whole front end to test for wear and or visually see the slop. You can trust what I say, I was the lead suspension guy at a body shop for 15 years. I've worked on a lot of Jeeps in the past and most issues where worn ball joints.
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#17
This is probably my problem too.. been chasing it for a while. How did you check? wiggling the tire didn't do anything. Did you stick a bar through the tire? what did you pry on?
#18
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From: Portland, Or
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
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Just to Clarify, the Guy who is apparently an expert on vehicle safety and thinks removing swaybars=death is recommending slapping a band aid known as a steering stabilizer on a jeep to mask worn out front end parts is a safe alternative to finding and fixing the issue?
#19
If you do a ton of highway driving then yes they do work and are fine to have on your rig. I never hit the interstate with my rig so they aren't needed. And yes this is why they make disconnects. No need to be a dick about it. As far as steering stabilizers go they are not a cure for the wobble they are there to soften sharp blows in a sense to the steering from bumps and such. The wobble comes from the main front end parts being worn out. In most cases it's worn ball joints because it's the hardest part of the whole front end to test for wear and or visually see the slop. You can trust what I say, I was the lead suspension guy at a body shop for 15 years. I've worked on a lot of Jeeps in the past and most issues where worn ball joints.
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#20
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From: Spokane Valley, WA
Year: 1989
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Cured the death wobble before I changed the stabiliser. I wasn't being a dick , running a vehicle without a swaybar that was designed to have one ( without any other suspension mods ) is dangerous and stupid. You obviously have experience and know a fair bit about this so I'm sure you can see where I'm coming from. Just making a point that you can have the best of both with disconnects. You know this but didn't seem like he did from the previous posts.
As for testing, a bar in through the wheel or with the wheel just slightly off the ground under the tire and simply lift. through the wheel is better because you can lift and then flip to the top side and pull out on the top of the wheel.
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#21
I wasn't claiming to be an expert on anything. Stabilisers do help and can improve the jerking around of the steering . They are not a cure for death wobble or any worn out parts . You don't sound clever pointing out this very obvious point. Didn't say anything about safe alternatives or band aid solutions , they come out with them standard. So for the sensitive guy who likes misquoting people , check everything else first. Whew.
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From: Spokane Valley, WA
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I would like to point out one small thing I learned being the lead tech in my shop, when doing a steering evaluation you need to keep the tires on the ground while checking tie rod ends because you need the resistance of the tires to show play in the tie rod ends. If you are able to see the free movement of a tie rod end with the tires in the air then it should have already broken and put you into a tree or car or something.
#24
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From: Spokane Valley, WA
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I would like to point out one small thing I learned being the lead tech in my shop, when doing a steering evaluation you need to keep the tires on the ground while checking tie rod ends because you need the resistance of the tires to show play in the tie rod ends. If you are able to see the free movement of a tie rod end with the tires in the air then it should have already broken and put you into a tree or car or something.
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#25
Interesting development, left for work this morning and driving on the highway was all good until I hit a good size bump or hole and I hear a grinding noise coming from the drivers side wheel. I pull over and check it out and inspect the front end and see nothing. Am I going crazy or am I looking at the wrong things?
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From: Spokane Valley, WA
Year: 1989
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Interesting development, left for work this morning and driving on the highway was all good until I hit a good size bump or hole and I hear a grinding noise coming from the drivers side wheel. I pull over and check it out and inspect the front end and see nothing. Am I going crazy or am I looking at the wrong things?
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