Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

help please...harmonic balancer keyway fell in

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-19-2012, 07:51 AM
  #46  
Member
Thread Starter
 
ducter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Durham, N.C
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

Originally Posted by freegdr
you state here a sllight difference in the front design could it be the front is thinner thus letting the bolt bottom out in the crank not touching the dampner in the front???
I should have specified my statement a bit, they appear to be the same but the out side ring just looks different. I will try the original one and see if it yields the same results. What looks different though is where they drilled it for weight correction not the physical part itself ....but I suppose it could be even though it appears different.

Let me ask though, it shouldn't move regardless though, I think the crank is what's moving.

Thanks for the reply.
Old 01-19-2012, 07:53 AM
  #47  
CF Veteran
 
freegdr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Broward County Fl.
Posts: 47,923
Likes: 0
Received 29 Likes on 28 Posts
Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
Default

when you removed the new one does it just slide off by hand
Old 01-19-2012, 07:54 AM
  #48  
Member
Thread Starter
 
ducter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Durham, N.C
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

Originally Posted by freegdr
when you removed the new one does it just slide off by hand
No, I had to use an installer. It fits very tight.
Old 01-19-2012, 08:05 AM
  #49  
CF Veteran
 
freegdr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Broward County Fl.
Posts: 47,923
Likes: 0
Received 29 Likes on 28 Posts
Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
Default

is it auto matic the pully move so easy when you move it ,i cant see you moving the crank six rods and flywheel and torque convertor with one finger??
Old 01-19-2012, 08:11 AM
  #50  
Member
Thread Starter
 
ducter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Durham, N.C
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

Originally Posted by freegdr
is it auto matic the pully move so easy when you move it ,i cant see you moving the crank six rods and flywheel and torque convertor with one finger??
It may look like 1 finger in the video, when I laid the phone down it got off center. I have to push pretty hard to move it. And yes it is an auto.
Old 01-19-2012, 08:15 AM
  #51  
CF Veteran
 
freegdr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Broward County Fl.
Posts: 47,923
Likes: 0
Received 29 Likes on 28 Posts
Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
Default

heres what id do remove the inspection cover for the tranny so you can see the converter and see if its moving with the dampner if so its in the crank bearings
Old 01-19-2012, 08:22 AM
  #52  
Member
Thread Starter
 
ducter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Durham, N.C
Posts: 126
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

Originally Posted by freegdr
heres what id do remove the inspection cover for the tranny so you can see the converter and see if its moving with the dampner if so its in the crank bearings
Yeah, that's what was suggested by another member and if I have time this evening that's what I will do. If its all moving is that a major repair? The odd thing is like I said before though is that you can hear it like hitting right inside the pan, directly behind the dampener.
Old 01-19-2012, 08:39 AM
  #53  
CF Veteran
 
freegdr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Broward County Fl.
Posts: 47,923
Likes: 0
Received 29 Likes on 28 Posts
Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
Default

Originally Posted by ducter
Yeah, that's what was suggested by another member and if I have time this evening that's what I will do. If its all moving is that a major repair? The odd thing is like I said before though is that you can hear it like hitting right inside the pan, directly behind the dampener.
well you gotta take the pan off again and see what moving in there remove bearing and see what size they are and replace them there measured in std,10,20,30,over sizes
Old 01-19-2012, 04:44 PM
  #54  
CF Veteran
 
Cherockee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Williamsport, Pa
Posts: 1,168
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Let's see what's under the pan

Last edited by Cherockee; 01-22-2012 at 06:50 AM.
Old 01-19-2012, 04:54 PM
  #55  
CF Veteran
 
freegdr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Broward County Fl.
Posts: 47,923
Likes: 0
Received 29 Likes on 28 Posts
Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
Default

dont you think if the crank was broke the belt would not turn because of the strain from the accesorys there a nother member just replaced his hjaving same issue??????????
Old 01-19-2012, 05:16 PM
  #56  
CF Veteran
 
DFlintstone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Nor-Cal Coast
Posts: 10,489
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 18 Posts
Year: 90,84
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0,2.5
Default

Originally Posted by freegdr
dont you think if the crank was broke the belt would not turn because of the strain from the accesorys there a nother member just replaced his hjaving same issue??????????
Oh, I was telling him about one I had break on a diagonal. The main held the broken end surprisingly well/straight, and would still rotate due to the angle. Still waiting for him to pull the dust cover or the starter and put that one to bed, one way or the other. No rush!

Also, since the bolt seems to be tight, and is moving.....

Last edited by DFlintstone; 01-19-2012 at 05:29 PM.
Old 01-20-2012, 01:11 AM
  #57  
CF Veteran
 
freegdr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Broward County Fl.
Posts: 47,923
Likes: 0
Received 29 Likes on 28 Posts
Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
Default

wonder what happened..........
Old 01-20-2012, 01:14 AM
  #58  
CF Veteran
 
DFlintstone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Nor-Cal Coast
Posts: 10,489
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 18 Posts
Year: 90,84
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0,2.5
Default

I don't blame him for taking his time. Was me I'd have a bottle if I still drank!
Old 01-20-2012, 01:16 AM
  #59  
CF Veteran
 
freegdr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Broward County Fl.
Posts: 47,923
Likes: 0
Received 29 Likes on 28 Posts
Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
Default

Originally Posted by DFlintstone
I don't blame him for taking his time. Was me I'd have a bottle if I still drank!
sounds good to me...
Old 01-20-2012, 01:40 AM
  #60  
CF Veteran
 
DFlintstone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Nor-Cal Coast
Posts: 10,489
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 18 Posts
Year: 90,84
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0,2.5
Default

Got to where an insane quantity wouldn't work.

Great photo Cherokee, (I want one looks like that!) I wonder how long that could work, broken. Driving the cam and accessories is small fish compared to engine torque.
Guess it would start to knock like a disco, then eventually start pissing out the cover seal...someday. Not an interference engine. If enough of the shaft is still riding on #1 main, there may not be much flex between there and #2.


Quick Reply: help please...harmonic balancer keyway fell in



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:26 PM.