Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

High milage synthetic?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-21-2013 | 11:54 AM
  #1  
timebomb0220's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee
Default High milage synthetic?

So I just picked up a used 1995 jeep Cherokee with 165,900 miles on it. I'm the third owner and the two previous owners took care of it and were older and never offroaded in it. Currently there are no leaks or anything. Head gasket is replaced. Trannys fine. The only thing is that the previous owner said

"I used high mileage synthetic 15w40"
and he told me its due for a oil change in two weeks

Now, I'm a vw/euro car person so a jeeps new. When I heard synthetic I was thinking that's really good! But reading around Im finding out synthetic oil in high mileage jeeps aren't that great after all.

Some people say it will cause leaks or it will hurt the high mileage engine. Others say if ur already useing it then continue to do so. Personally I want what's best for the engine. I plan on doing an oil change Saturday. Should I trust the previous owner and use synthetic? Or should I stop using the synthetic and go to a thicker standard high milage oil? If u guys don't suggest this "synthetic 15w40" what do you guys suggest? I searched and came up with nothing. Thanks!!
Old 02-21-2013 | 11:57 AM
  #2  
Xj88's Avatar
Old School CF Moderator
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 9,652
Likes: 3
From: Chattanooga
Year: 2001
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

You searched and came up with nothing?
Impossible..

Ive literally sat here and watched like 3 "what oil should I use" threads come up..
Not to mention the 32515616634732541 threads about oil that were made in the last month.
Old 02-21-2013 | 12:02 PM
  #3  
RTorrez1's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 4,172
Likes: 4
From: Riviera, Texas
Year: 1998 Sport
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by Xj88
You searched and came up with nothing?
Impossible..

Ive literally sat here and watched like 3 "what oil should I use" threads come up..
Not to mention the 32515616634732541 threads about oil that were made in the last month.
^^Thank You For this^^
There are way to many. "What oil should I use" threads.
Old 02-21-2013 | 12:10 PM
  #4  
danXJ's Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 342
Likes: 0
From: Southern California
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

I wouldn't change is that's what they have been using. syn or not the key is keeping oil changed regularly. you can run any syn oil in it, doesn't have to be the same brand.

seems like every reply on this forum is "search dude" lol...
Old 02-21-2013 | 12:59 PM
  #5  
timebomb0220's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee
Default

Originally Posted by RTorrez1
^^Thank You For this^^
There are way to many. "What oil should I use" threads.
Originally Posted by Xj88
You searched and came up with nothing?
Impossible..

Ive literally sat here and watched like 3 "what oil should I use" threads come up..
Not to mention the 32515616634732541 threads about oil that were made in the last month.
Wow guys thanks for the response. But before you get all butthurt about me asking "which oil should I use" maybe you should actually take a minute out of you busy busy days and actually READ. I'm asking if 15w-30 synthetic WILL or WILL NOT hurt the 165xxx engine. Throwing in what you guys suggest at the end was just a quick last minute thought. So, before you come and write on my threads change your tampons..

Thanks
Old 02-21-2013 | 01:02 PM
  #6  
xjsnake's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,150
Likes: 1
From: Nashville, TN
Year: 1997, 1993
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Originally Posted by timebomb0220
Wow guys thanks for the response. But before you get all butthurt about me asking "which oil should I use" maybe you should actually take a minute out of you busy busy days and actually READ. I'm asking if 15w-30 synthetic WILL or WILL NOT hurt the 165xxx engine. Throwing in what you guys suggest at the end was just a quick last minute thought. So, before you come and write on my threads change your tampons..

Thanks
15w-40 synth or 15-30 synth will not hurt your engine at all. Get a good filter (Wix, Napa Gold, Mobil 1) NOT FRAM and your jeep will run longer than almost any other vehicle on the road.
Old 02-21-2013 | 01:02 PM
  #7  
timebomb0220's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee
Default

Originally Posted by danXJ
I wouldn't change is that's what they have been using. syn or not the key is keeping oil changed regularly. you can run any syn oil in it, doesn't have to be the same brand.

seems like every reply on this forum is "search dude" lol...
But continuing using synthetic, will this make the motor wear quicker? I'm aware synthetic generally doesn't need to be changed as often as regular oil (regular oil 3k/syn 5k) but i would be changing it every 3K just to be safe. If syn oil wasn't made for these engines I won't use it. But Im unsure if I can just switch to another oil and have a slight mixture of syn/regular oil, I can't imagine emptying the oil pan will get all the oil out ya know?

And seriously, if u don't want to answer the question just move on. Lol
Old 02-21-2013 | 01:07 PM
  #8  
pmondo's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,053
Likes: 2
From: columbia, pa
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by timebomb0220
Wow guys thanks for the response. But before you get all butthurt about me asking "which oil should I use" maybe you should actually take a minute out of you busy busy days and actually READ. I'm asking if 15w-30 synthetic WILL or WILL NOT hurt the 165xxx engine. Throwing in what you guys suggest at the end was just a quick last minute thought. So, before you come and write on my threads change your tampons..

Thanks
LOL....I like this guy^^^^^^
Old 02-21-2013 | 01:13 PM
  #9  
pmondo's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,053
Likes: 2
From: columbia, pa
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Id say use the synthetic. I run Amsoil in my 06 turbo jeep grand cherokee srt8, 99 tj, 94 saturn and my wifes 02 celica. I have 19x,xxx on mine when I got it 2 months ago and he used synthetic. Which I was going to use synthetic anyway after I get all the oil leaks fixed....lol
Old 02-21-2013 | 01:13 PM
  #10  
danXJ's Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 342
Likes: 0
From: Southern California
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default High milage synthetic?

Originally Posted by timebomb0220
But continuing using synthetic, will this make the motor wear quicker? I'm aware synthetic generally doesn't need to be changed as often as regular oil (regular oil 3k/syn 5k) but i would be changing it every 3K just to be safe. If syn oil wasn't made for these engines I won't use it. But Im unsure if I can just switch to another oil and have a slight mixture of syn/regular oil, I can't imagine emptying the oil pan will get all the oil out ya know?

And seriously, if u don't want to answer the question just move on. Lol
IMO no syn doesn't last longer. the filter can only filter so much, that's the issue not oil. so if the filter can't filter all the crud syn picks up (better than conv) then it's time to change. SYN basically gives you better protection from dry start. (sitting all night) I would use syn and change 3-4k or 3-4 months, but that's me. I do that in all my toys, but obviously the dirt bikes quads SxS get more often than 3-4k more like 3-400 lol.

if money is an issue you can get good a syn blend. I'm not sure what oil people are running in the 4.0, but I use rotella in my toys. Motorcraft in my V10 because it's a special weight.

lol ya I know 10-15 new threads are answered with "search" honestly on the Tapatalk search sucks and doesn't pull up anything...

Last edited by danXJ; 02-21-2013 at 01:16 PM.
Old 02-21-2013 | 02:11 PM
  #11  
timebomb0220's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Model: Cherokee
Default

Originally Posted by xjsnake
15w-40 synth or 15-30 synth will not hurt your engine at all. Get a good filter (Wix, Napa Gold, Mobil 1) NOT FRAM and your jeep will run longer than almost any other vehicle on the road.
Are these brands available at local stores(ie. autozone/advanced auto)? Whats wrong with fram if you dont mind me asking, i use fram in my 2007 big turbo gli haha. i read the filter is a ***** to get out on the 4.0 i hope its easy done then said haha

Originally Posted by pmondo
LOL....I like this guy^^^^^^
Ive been on so many vw forums im used to "e-bullys" trying to flame me. gtfo go cry about it haha

Originally Posted by pmondo
Id say use the synthetic. I run Amsoil in my 06 turbo jeep grand cherokee srt8, 99 tj, 94 saturn and my wifes 02 celica. I have 19x,xxx on mine when I got it 2 months ago and he used synthetic. Which I was going to use synthetic anyway after I get all the oil leaks fixed....lol
Amsoil, is this a brand they sell locally? i was always a castrol guy

Originally Posted by danXJ
IMO no syn doesn't last longer. the filter can only filter so much, that's the issue not oil. so if the filter can't filter all the crud syn picks up (better than conv) then it's time to change. SYN basically gives you better protection from dry start. (sitting all night) I would use syn and change 3-4k or 3-4 months, but that's me. I do that in all my toys, but obviously the dirt bikes quads SxS get more often than 3-4k more like 3-400 lol.

if money is an issue you can get good a syn blend. I'm not sure what oil people are running in the 4.0, but I use rotella in my toys. Motorcraft in my V10 because it's a special weight.

lol ya I know 10-15 new threads are answered with "search" honestly on the Tapatalk search sucks and doesn't pull up anything...
Thanks for the info dude! and ill prob stick with synthetic i dont get why people says it causes leaks tho
Old 02-21-2013 | 02:18 PM
  #12  
freegdr's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 47,923
Likes: 31
From: Broward County Fl.
Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
Default

I run high mileage castrol 10w30 got 200,000 still going strong . ive run castrol in my last three vechicles nomotor issues ever . jm2cw
Old 02-21-2013 | 02:53 PM
  #13  
pmondo's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,053
Likes: 2
From: columbia, pa
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by timebomb0220
Are these brands available at local stores(ie. autozone/advanced auto)? Whats wrong with fram if you dont mind me asking, i use fram in my 2007 big turbo gli haha. i read the filter is a ***** to get out on the 4.0 i hope its easy done then said haha




Amsoil, is this a brand they sell locally? i was always a castrol guy
The filter is easy to change....person who said it was hard to change must carry a purse.....

Amsoil distribution warehouse is here in Lancaster, but unless there is a guy selling it or store selling it no, places like Advanced auto, autozone dont have it
Old 02-21-2013 | 03:08 PM
  #14  
Xj88's Avatar
Old School CF Moderator
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 9,652
Likes: 3
From: Chattanooga
Year: 2001
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by timebomb0220
Wow guys thanks for the response. But before you get all butthurt about me asking "which oil should I use" maybe you should actually take a minute out of you busy busy days and actually READ. I'm asking if 15w-30 synthetic WILL or WILL NOT hurt the 165xxx engine. Throwing in what you guys suggest at the end was just a quick last minute thought. So, before you come and write on my threads change your tampons..

Thanks

Check your attitude. You asked a question that is still asked commonly...syn or not.. You may have searched but you obviously didnt do a good job. Here..this wasnt that hard btw.

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/oil...ic-not-107638/

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/wha...d-i-use-42222/

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/swi...ntional-36772/

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f59/sh...ine-oil-83702/

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/syn...-fluids-45610/

Want more? Let me know.

SEARCH
Old 02-21-2013 | 04:37 PM
  #15  
danXJ's Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 342
Likes: 0
From: Southern California
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by timebomb0220
Are these brands available at local stores(ie. autozone/advanced auto)? Whats wrong with fram if you dont mind me asking, i use fram in my 2007 big turbo gli haha. i read the filter is a ***** to get out on the 4.0 i hope its easy done then said haha


Ive been on so many vw forums im used to "e-bullys" trying to flame me. gtfo go cry about it haha



Amsoil, is this a brand they sell locally? i was always a castrol guy



Thanks for the info dude! and ill prob stick with synthetic i dont get why people says it causes leaks tho
no problem! well when you have ran dyno oil it builds up sludge more, then syn cleans it all out and take gaskets sometimes with it lol. like a tranny flush at 100k... if you have done regular maint on it, just change the fluid... same thing.

but if it's used to syn I'd stick with that.


Quick Reply: High milage synthetic?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:48 PM.