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Old 04-09-2020 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Alexey Chernyuk
I really need some help here guys? Fighting vibration battle with my 00 xj. It starts around 55 mph and getting stronger with speed increase. Vibrates way harder on acceleration.
Wheels are balanced
New tires less then 6 mo
New control arms upper and lower
New motor mounts and tranny mount
New u joints on rear driveshaft
Front was checked and driveline shop found no problem
New track bar and tie rods
Hubs are checked and there is no play
New steering stabilizer
Alignment is done less then 3 month ago
Steering box replaced
New shocks all around

Should I try to road force balance the tires?
Could it be ball joints or front axle u-joints and no one can notice the issue?
Anything else I’m missing?
Any suggestions how to diagnose?
I attached a video of me jacking a rear end and spinning a wheel back and forth. Some one on Club XJ forum told me it could something wrong with the rear diff. Any help appreciated.

https://youtu.be/o1VDCBknSU0
Did the vibration start before or after you did all the mentioned repairs?
Did you do anything to the Jeep, before the vibration started?
Have you tried jacking all 4 wheels up in the air & bring it up to vibration speed, also try it in 4x4? Look around for something strange? I'd put the jacks under the axles, so as not to flex the suspension.

Thoughts;
- Harmonic Balancer?
- Driveshaft(s) not balanced?
- Pull the rear driveshaft & see if the vibration disappears, just be sure to put a bag over the transfer case tail housing.
Old 04-09-2020 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by country2
I would go ahead and dab a bit of nail polish or a dab of paint to make sure. If the paint gets broken you know its moving.
They sell something for this exact application. I refer to it as a "Torque stripe". It comes in different colors and I assume different strengths depending on your torque value. You squeeze a line of it over the 2 mating surfaces and let it dry for a good while. Then if there is substantial vibration or movement between the 2 surfaces, you will see the "paint" cracked. Here is the stuff.

https://www.durablesupply.com/dytaprtoma.html


I'm also dealing with a similar issue, but not so much vibration. It's more of a real loud hum that starts around 60mph and doesnt go away no matter how fast I go. It definitely comes from the front end, but I wanna say it might be a bearing or something. Like I said, no real vibration... maybe just a hair. It's just a loud hum. I'll probably check out all the stuff in your list and see if I can track mine down.
I'm 90% sure the front diff fluid was serviced within a year or so before I bought the XJ last August... original owner was a retired Air Force mechanic and he was very meticulous about taking care of that jeep...

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Old 04-11-2020 | 05:52 PM
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Checked the flexplate to torque convertor bolts today. All tight but one bolt is different then other 3. 3 of them are 15mm one is 14mm. Is it possible it could unbalance driveline?




Old 04-14-2020 | 02:05 PM
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That's a very viable assumption. If you can find a bolt that matches the rest, go a head and swap it out. Having the smaller bolt head and not having the washer flange on it may be the difference of a few grams, but at 3000 RPMs, it may be the problem.
Are you ok with starting the vehicle and crawling underneath while its running to look at the flexplate? Maybe that could give some insight as well. Obviously keep it in Park, pull the e-brake to engage, and use chocks in front and behind a couple tires.... all in the name of safety.
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