kbeam418

I don't get how they get away with that. Sure if my tire goes flat that goo will work but what happens if the tire blows? You're just screwed especially if you're somewhere without cell phone coverage. Twice a year I go to my uncle's cottage in Kentucky where there is zero coverage for a good 50 miles (if not more) in the middle of nowhere.

Tbone289

If his chart is showing 100 ft-lbs for American cars, I would say this is probably not the case. Every American car I've owned was spec'd close to 100ft-lb, and even the XJ is spec'd at 85-115 ft-lb in the FSM. I always just do 80ft-lb on everything I own. That's plenty, and not to the extreme where threads will be stretched and OEM lug wrench can't still be used comfortably.

Tbone289

Are you saying fix-a-flat and no spare? I thought this was only done with cars that came with run-flats.

Willys55

you are correct, the rest are full of baloney

EEVEE

From a few economy cars yes many just give an air pump only from what i seen such as in a kia soul the owner wanted the spare put on but looking for it i only found a bottle of green slime and an air pump only. So he was forced to buy a new tire because of it. And with AAA dont get me started with those morons.... I had a truck come in mind you it was pouring rain and had a blowout so AAA took the spare tire out and stuck it on and put the blown tire back under what they failed to see was the chain managed to knot itself through one of the lugnut stud holes and here i am getting angry because im on my back in the rain trying to get this tire out and it wouldnt budge because of it so she had no choice but to take it somewhere to get the chain undone. Or when AAA swapped a battery in a dodge caravan they completely and utterly wrecked the battery terminals and took the battery hold down with them and the owner was angry bout that so AAA has a bad taste in my mouth because of this. I understand if theyre on the side of the highway or something and want ti done fast but please dont make things 20X harder on others like this

Bugout4x4

I agree that 80 is more than enough on any of them. 140-160 is overkill. Even the old dual inner and outer BUDD nuts will stay tight with 160. That's just a crazy rating for a car.

I wonder what grade the factory studs and nuts are rated? Grade 5? Grade 8?

Tbone289

I don't know, probably grade 5. I used to do 100ft-lb on the XJ until recently, when I bought some aftermarket (1 piece) lugnuts. They evidently are softer than OEM, because after snugging them up a couple of times at 100ft-lb, the lugnut threads stretched to the point where you couldn't easily hand thread them on anymore. The lugs weren't phased by it, so I bought a new set of nuts, started using 80 ft-lb, and haven't had a problem since. I've always used 80-ft lbs on lighter duty stuff (cars) with alloy wheels anyway, so now I don't even think about it and just use 80 for everything. K.I.S.S.

5-Speed

I always do 100 ft lb on my Jeeps. On my Bug even with small 4 lugs, I go to 90 ft lb. If I go less then 90, they start to come loose, especially in racing conditions.

kbeam418

I'm not sure what torque I use I just use the old school breaker bar method never warped a rotor or broke a stud on any of my vehicles. I did use a HF torque wrench once and the lugs came loose after 10 miles lol. I've never used a torque wrench on anything I just use different size ratchets and go by feel. Only time I've used one was when I replaced a gasket on a Ford 4.9 because the spec was something like 10 ft-lbs and had to be spot on.

67 GMC

This is a great thread. On my GM stuff it was always 100 FT-LBs but my Toyota stuff is 76 ft-lbs. 80 seems about right though.

EEVEE

it sucks clicking the 8 lug trucks over and over and over again......

StealthyMcStealth

So let me get this straight... the problem is lug nuts in oil filters?

67 GMC

It was the Cheezits that got my attention....

Bugout4x4

Lol... I was going to tease 67 GMC about this one...

Have you ever had trouble getting one of those filters loose again?

It's all jumbled up between Filters and lugnuts. lol

Bugout4x4

I just feel those with the air wrench using a star pattern and then go back around the bolt circle again once. GTG