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Old 01-19-2012, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by coloradojeepxjowner
Lucas does have two types of gasoline engine oil additives. 1 is a conventional fossil fuel additive which is thicker like honey. The other is a synthetic makeup and is significantly thinner. I have used both additives in my XJ, WJ, 97' 4.6 liter F150, 1970 FJ Cruiser with a Chevy 350. The normal 4.0 liter tick seemed to disappear with the synthetic additive. These additives do work, I have had my oil tested to prove to myself it was worth the cost (My company owns heavy equipment and we send in oil samples regularly to ensure our millions in equipment is working properly) so I sent used oil with and without the additive in for testing.
Have you used NAPA brand oils before? I use nothing but Mobil 1 fully synthetic 5W-30. I live in Colorado and honestly depending on where work takes me in this state it could be -20 to 110 degrees between oil changes.
yeah it was napa oil 5w30
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Originally Posted by crbnfibr
yeah it was napa oil 5w30
IIRC Napa's oil is produced by Ashland Oil (Valvoline)
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Not trying to hammer on Lucas, but you need no oil additives. Premium oil has everything the engine needs already in it.

The ONLY time I use an oil additive is when the engine burns a LOT of oil and I'm trying to limp it along a few more miles.
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Usuing most oil additives thicken your oil and that's what cover ip noises if you choose a heavier oil like 5w-40 it would also go away, not foam up in your motor and send foamy engine oil through out your engine,
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Hey just saying my 1997 Ford f150 was purchased new. Used conventional Lucas additive from day one with Mobil synthetic 5w30. And changed over to Lucas synthetic additive when they started to produce it. The truck had 280k miles on it when I sold and consumed no oil. This truck was lifted and chipped. So that motor had a hard life, pulled trailers and Colorado extreme weather. There was limping it along. The only vehicle I bought used was my 2000 xj that leaked and ticked. Lucas or synthetic Mobil one cleaned that up also. In my opinion NAPA or Valvoline is like drinking natty light and wonder why it tastes like crappy and gives you a headache. Spend a few more dollars and put the good stuff in your jeep additive or not. Buy the good a 280k Ford is thanking me for it....
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To the person that started this post. I overlooked something in your post. How much oil did you expect to cone out during the drain? Did you use all of the 5 quarts and the 1 quart of Lucas when you refilled the crankcase?
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I had 300k on my tacoma before it was bought back due to a frame recall. It had Mobil 1 in from the first oil change, never used oil, leaked oil nothing. I done a head gasket on it at 242k (not that it needed it but just for peace of mind) at which time I pulled the motor. All of the bearing clearances were in spec and nowhere near the service wear limit. The engine appeared new inside. I'm a firm believer in Mobil syn oil. I don't use it in my xj because it uses a couple quarts between oil changes. I'm planning to do a rebuild this spring and will be switching oils when I do.
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Originally Posted by UJSLOST
My 00 z71 had a tick like a bad lifter . I used lucas and it got worse. Traded it off after that. Ive seen lucas work some miracles and Ive seen it make stuff worse. I knew a dude that had a wrist pin knocking in a F150 that had the 5.0 and when he put lucas in it would stop.
ive never had a knock then my oil pump went out, put on a new oil pump and some 10w-30 and after the engine got hot driving home it went to knockin like crazy, had to run 15-40 in it now but ive got great oil press! prob time to build a new one .... bore it and stroke it!
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Originally Posted by knuckleduster271
I had 300k on my tacoma before it was bought back due to a frame recall. It had Mobil 1 in from the first oil change, never used oil, leaked oil nothing. I done a head gasket on it at 242k (not that it needed it but just for peace of mind) at which time I pulled the motor. All of the bearing clearances were in spec and nowhere near the service wear limit. The engine appeared new inside. I'm a firm believer in Mobil syn oil. I don't use it in my xj because it uses a couple quarts between oil changes. I'm planning to do a rebuild this spring and will be switching oils when I do.
yeah i had an 04 frontier and ran nothin but that in there, got cheap one day and bought some castrol high milage and the lifters started tappin, never quit. so i quess if your gonna use one oil stick with it!
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Originally Posted by coloradojeepxjowner
To the person that started this post. I overlooked something in your post. How much oil did you expect to cone out during the drain? Did you use all of the 5 quarts and the 1 quart of Lucas when you refilled the crankcase?
correct, but the knock went away and hasn't come back even in the extreme cold
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Originally Posted by knuckleduster271
I had 300k on my tacoma before it was bought back due to a frame recall. It had Mobil 1 in from the first oil change, never used oil, leaked oil nothing. I done a head gasket on it at 242k (not that it needed it but just for peace of mind) at which time I pulled the motor. All of the bearing clearances were in spec and nowhere near the service wear limit. The engine appeared new inside. I'm a firm believer in Mobil syn oil. I don't use it in my xj because it uses a couple quarts between oil changes. I'm planning to do a rebuild this spring and will be switching oils when I do.
Mobile one does not make a full synthetic

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My Jeep knocks a bit at start up, especially if its a little low and its cold.

usually takes 2-5 minutes to go away when its down in the 20s

but then again

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Originally Posted by captainofiron
My Jeep knocks a bit at start up, especially if its a little low and its cold.

usually takes 2-5 minutes to go away when its down in the 20s

but then again
What weight do you run?
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@hawaiian808 do your research before posting next time ... http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/.../Homepage.aspx just sayin' bro
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Originally Posted by coloradojeepxjowner
@hawaiian808 do your research before posting next time ... http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/.../Homepage.aspx just sayin' bro
Mobile one is a blend of group 3 base stock and pao's , pao's and group 4/5 are true synthetics, group 3/2 are for all intensive purposes dinosaur oil, germany actually passed a law forcing the major oil companies to put synthetic blend on the bottles, thus mobile one made a full synth only available in germany or mail order, that also being said group 3 base stock performs as well as 4/5 in an engine they blend it because of the
Pour point
Ability to suspended sludge
And seal conditioners


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