The importance of the fan shroud?
#16
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From: Nor-Cal Coast
Year: 90,84
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Like was said a couple times, where the shroud really matters is when you are not moving much. If I was delivering mail, over heating, and my shroud was busted, I'd replace it..Just my .02. Btw, I maintained a small "fleet", (up to 4) of the old postal Jeeps for years! Odd little things.
#17
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From: WI
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I'm definitely going to get a new shroud....that is, if I can find one. The local dealer looked it up by my VIN and said that there is indeed a separate part number for the RHD Jeep Cherokee shroud. Unfortunately, it is no longer available. So I need to either find a vendor that has one or locate one in a salvage yard. The two Cherokees I own were never really postal Jeeps. They were built here in the US for sale in the Japanese market. I just had them re-imported so I could use them on my route. So far, I haven't had any big issues with either one that I couldn't solve. I'll get the high running temp. thing figured out eventually too. But thanks again for all the tips!
#18
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From: Tucson AZ
Year: 94
Model: Cherokee
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You could replace the broken section with a strip of thin sheet aluminum if your unable to find a replacement shroud and a postal jeep that creeps from mailbox to mailbox sure sounds like a good place for a manual override switch on the elect. fan.
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AND..yea, those cheap little pop rivet deals come in handy allot. I have a few, you can even get stainless rivets. Might make fixing something like that a piece of cake. Explaining to the wife why there is a piece of the aluminum pot missing might be a little tough though.
#20
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Year: 1996
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Thanks again for all the tips, guys. My Labor Day weekend project will be to drop a new or slightly "fabricated" shroud in there and also wire up a manual switch for the electric fan. I used the Jeep on the route the past two days and the needle never got much above 212. The electric fan kicked in as it should, but it would be even better if I had it running constantly while delivering mail during warmer temps.
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Right on. Just the fan WILL pull a little more are through the rad with a good shroud. Plenty of posters have no problem without one. Other times that few % adds up to enough to "tip the scales" so you are dumping as much heat as you need, as opposed to having it climb. (stopped in traffic, slowly climbing a long hill), (Stopping at every mailbox!)
As long as the thermostat is "in charge" IE, the system can dump the heat when it opens, you would see no difference with, or without a shroud.
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#23
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From: Ronceverte WV
Year: 1998
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I had more consistent temps when I put mine in.
But in all honesty though I didn't think they came with one until I really started looking into it.
I've NEVER seen one in an XJ before. My 89 didn't have one,my buddies 90 didn't, my other buddies 96 didn't have one and my 98 didn't have one when I bought her. Plus I have yet to see one in the junk yard.
But in all honesty though I didn't think they came with one until I really started looking into it.
I've NEVER seen one in an XJ before. My 89 didn't have one,my buddies 90 didn't, my other buddies 96 didn't have one and my 98 didn't have one when I bought her. Plus I have yet to see one in the junk yard.
#24
I had more consistent temps when I put mine in.
But in all honesty though I didn't think they came with one until I really started looking into it.
I've NEVER seen one in an XJ before. My 89 didn't have one,my buddies 90 didn't, my other buddies 96 didn't have one and my 98 didn't have one when I bought her. Plus I have yet to see one in the junk yard.
But in all honesty though I didn't think they came with one until I really started looking into it.
I've NEVER seen one in an XJ before. My 89 didn't have one,my buddies 90 didn't, my other buddies 96 didn't have one and my 98 didn't have one when I bought her. Plus I have yet to see one in the junk yard.
#25
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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
My theory is that since the motor fits so tight under the Hood the shroud really is worthless. I mean the air only has one place to go. Wranglers on the other hand have a significant area above the motor. Not the case with the xj. In fact I swear my temps have been cooler without the shroud.
#26
Look again lol, the shroud isn't there to point air at the engine. It's to force the fan to pull in through the radiator. Without it the design of the fan blades is such that they will suck in air via a path of lesser resistance along the sides. This includes sucking cold air up from the bottom, bypassing the rad entirely. I suppose this would cause cooler air to be blown around in your engine bay, but if this makes a difference to your internal engine temp you might want to figure out why your rad is so clogged
The way the fan is designed it wont pull from the sides, however it can push it out the sides
Are we having fun yet?
Point being I personally have witnessed no difference.
For instance my brothers electric fan we just installed only has a 1" shroud and it kicks butt!
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From: Nor-Cal Coast
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The way the fan is designed it wont pull from the sides, however it can push it out the sides
It WILL pull air from the sides in front of the fan. That's why it's designed with a shroud.
Point being I personally have witnessed no difference.
As long as the thermostat is "in charge" IE, the system can dump the heat when it opens, you would see no difference with, or without a shroud.
It WILL pull air from the sides in front of the fan. That's why it's designed with a shroud.
Point being I personally have witnessed no difference.
As long as the thermostat is "in charge" IE, the system can dump the heat when it opens, you would see no difference with, or without a shroud.
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#30
Help!
Thanks for the comments & suggestions. I replaced the fan clutch today and didn't notice much difference. The gauge continues to indicate right around 212 degrees. It's nowhere near the red portion of the gauge, but I'll see how close it gets on the mail route tomorrow. At this point, with all that I've replaced...the only thing left seems to be the radiator. I don't know if it is worth getting the whole system flushed out with some type of chemical solution or if I should just get a new radiator and be done with it. I know I can get a brand new RHD radiator for $128.00, so I may just go that route. In the unlikely event that a new shroud drops the temp. 20 degrees, I'll be a happy guy indeed!