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Old 08-06-2009, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by pwn
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Anyway, I'll be headed home tonight to get my hands dirty. I have to go home to my parents house to do any work on the jeep. The condo community wont let me work on the jeep in the driveway. They have really strict rules on draining fluids and leaving parts in the driveway.

(Although there have been successful night time oil changes)
Late night ninja mechanics rule!
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Originally Posted by pwn
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Anyway, I'll be headed home tonight to get my hands dirty. I have to go home to my parents house to do any work on the jeep. The condo community wont let me work on the jeep in the driveway. They have really strict rules on draining fluids and leaving parts in the driveway.

(Although there have been successful night time oil changes)
u asked... lol
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I'm having a similar clunk and have been doing the same searches you have, lol. You're not kidding that it could be just about anything under the sun. Given the way you describe it coming from the TC, be sure and check your tranny mount as it could be causing some movement in the TC. It's one of the things on my list to check as well as ball joints.
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Also check your trans/tcase mounts/bushings. If the bushings are worn the trans/tcase could shift when the force is applied and would shift in different directions when put in Drive versus Reverse
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Originally Posted by redhandstudios
Late night ninja mechanics rule!
Hahaha, i've done the wierdest things to cars and jeeps in the night.. lol!
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Originally Posted by fantic238
Hahaha, i've done the wierdest things to cars and jeeps in the night.. lol!
i dont think i wanna know
Old 08-06-2009, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fantic238
Hahaha, i've done the wierdest things to cars and jeeps in the night.. lol!
Originally Posted by jonnyb78
i dont think i wanna know
X2 on that! I was thinking the same thing.
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So I crawled underneath the Jeep today armed with a new u-joint and a tub of grease. I usually do most of my work at my parents house since most of my tools are there, but I do keep a small toolbox in the Jeep. I did end up borrowing a hammer from my neighbor in order to knock out the old u-joint though. Turns out it was shot. One of the rollers had no bearings or grease left in it. I dont think it had alot to do with the cLuNk from shifting, but it did make a significant improvement on a nasty shake I was getting cruising down the road. Next step was the drive shaft. I took some brake clean I had leftover and cleaned off all the old dirt and grease from the drive shaft and crank case. Slapped on some new grease when it was clean, and slid everything back together.

The first thing I did when I was finished was climbed in and started shifting between gears. I didnt really notice a whole lot of difference right away. Took it down the road and back and the second I pulled into the drive I noticed it when I threw it into reverse. It still made the noise but definitely wasnt as harsh. Since I was at my place I decided to wait to change the t-case fluid. We aren't really supposed to work on vehicles in the driveway at the condo anyway. (might be a job for late night ninja mechanic )
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Originally Posted by pwn
So I crawled underneath the Jeep today armed with a new u-joint and a tub of grease. I usually do most of my work at my parents house since most of my tools are there, but I do keep a small toolbox in the Jeep. I did end up borrowing a hammer from my neighbor in order to knock out the old u-joint though. Turns out it was shot. One of the rollers had no bearings or grease left in it. I dont think it had alot to do with the cLuNk from shifting, but it did make a significant improvement on a nasty shake I was getting cruising down the road. Next step was the drive shaft. I took some brake clean I had leftover and cleaned off all the old dirt and grease from the drive shaft and crank case. Slapped on some new grease when it was clean, and slid everything back together.

The first thing I did when I was finished was climbed in and started shifting between gears. I didnt really notice a whole lot of difference right away. Took it down the road and back and the second I pulled into the drive I noticed it when I threw it into reverse. It still made the noise but definitely wasnt as harsh. Since I was at my place I decided to wait to change the t-case fluid. We aren't really supposed to work on vehicles in the driveway at the condo anyway. (might be a job for late night ninja mechanic )
Ring and pinion.
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Originally Posted by fantic238
Ring and pinion.
thats what it sounds like to me also... buddys silverado with the 10 bolt did this... eventually it locked up and left him stranded... he thought it was the transmission slippin sometimes too...
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Originally Posted by pwn
X2 on that! I was thinking the same thing.
Not that weird! bunch of perverse minds...
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Originally Posted by fantic238
Ring and pinion.

My mistake for forgetting that part Fantic. I had the Jeep in N and was using the ebrake to keep the thing from roling down my driveway. This way I could easily roll it a few inches so I could reach all the little bolts to remove the u-joint. After installing the new u-joint, I grabbed ahold of the driveshaft to check the play and there was not much travel at all. Not a half inch anyway.

It felt pretty good as I drove it in here and got to work. I shifted through the gears again in the parking lot. It is substantially better than it was. Besides, wouldnt slack in the ring and pinion mean there would be a small clunk each time you push in the gas? Seems like you would be able to feel it, much like the u-joint.
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Originally Posted by pwn
My mistake for forgetting that part Fantic. I had the Jeep in N and was using the ebrake to keep the thing from roling down my driveway. This way I could easily roll it a few inches so I could reach all the little bolts to remove the u-joint. After installing the new u-joint, I grabbed ahold of the driveshaft to check the play and there was not much travel at all. Not a half inch anyway.

It felt pretty good as I drove it in here and got to work. I shifted through the gears again in the parking lot. It is substantially better than it was. Besides, wouldnt slack in the ring and pinion mean there would be a small clunk each time you push in the gas? Seems like you would be able to feel it, much like the u-joint.
Wait a minute... how were you able to turn your drive shaft to reach the u-joint bolts with the hand brake applied. That's impossible. If the rear wheels are locked the shaft is too.
The klunk you are talking about happens when the diff or pinion bearings have play. Every time u accel. the diff. housing moves up and down with a small clunk.
Ring and pinion wear is different. It means that teeth and heel are worn due to lack of lubricant and consequent heat. It is like a worn bike chain and crown. This gives an eccessive rotational play that is exactly what you have.
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Originally Posted by fantic238
Wait a minute... how were you able to turn your drive shaft to reach the u-joint bolts with the hand brake applied.
i let up on the handbrake to rotate it.

Originally Posted by fantic238
The klunk you are talking about happens when the diff or pinion bearings have play. Every time u accel. the diff. housing moves up and down with a small clunk.
the sound was coming from the transfer case though, not the diff. And it would only happen when I would be sitting in a parking lot, shifting in between drive and reverse, or vice versa. I never had any cLuNks while accel. The driveshaft doesnt have any excessive play in it.


The more I drive it, the better it sounds so I am pretty convinced my clunk was a result of the bad u-joint and the grease-less driveshaft.
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Originally Posted by BR600rr
how much u going to spend on replacing stuff u dont need
When I'm 40 miles from pavement or 400 miles from home, I'm darned glad I spend the money for preventative maintenance.

Besides, its my money and my Jeep, so why would you care?


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