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Old 06-27-2015 | 08:48 AM
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Hey guys I have a 98 jeep Cherokee with the 4.0 auto two wheel drive and I'm getting a weird bogging down/loss of power. I searched on here, but really didn't find the issue I'm having. Here's what it's doing every so often while accelerating from a stop the vehicle feels like I'm pulling an anchor behind it no matter how far you press the throttle down, however if I let off the throttle just a bit and the give it throttle again it goes away. I'm not getting any popping or backfires just complete loss of power.
Old 06-27-2015 | 09:35 AM
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Check your exhaust manifold. They can crack and cause this issue.
Old 06-27-2015 | 11:02 AM
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Really? how would an exhaust leak cause this issue?
Old 06-28-2015 | 12:44 PM
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Any check engine light? If so, you must retrieve codes.

In the absence of a check engine light, I would test the following, in this order.

1. Fuel pressure. Test at the schrader valve on the fuel rail. Many parts stores will rent you a fuel pressure gauge inexpensively. You should have 49 psi, plus or minus 5 psi.

2. Throttle position sensor. More on this below. Good luck!
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The throttle position sensor is connected to the throttle shaft on the throttle body. It sends throttle valve angle information to the PCM. The PCM uses this information to determine how much fuel the engine needs. The TPS is really just a simple potentiometer with one end connected to 5 volts from the PCM and the other to ground. A third wire is connected to the PCM. As you move the accelerator pedal with your foot, the output of the TPS changes. At a closed throttle position, the output of the TPS is low, about a half a volt. As the throttle valve opens, the output increases so that, at wide open throttle, the output voltage should be above 3.9 volts. Testing can be performed with an electrical meter. Analog meter is best. You are looking for a smooth sweep of voltage throughout the entire throttle band. While slowly opening and closing the throttle, take note to the movement of the voltmeter needle. There should be a direct relationship between the needle motion to the motion of the throttle. If at anytime the needle moves abruptly or inconsistently with the movement of the throttle, the TPS is bad

You should have 5 volts going into the TPS. At idle, TPS output voltage must be greater than 200 millivolts. At wide open throttle (WOT), TPS output voltage must be less than 4.8 volts.. The best is to use an analog meter (not digital) to see if the transition from idle to WOT is smooth with no dead spots. With your meter set for volts, put the black probe on a good ground like your negative battery terminal. With the key on, engine not running, test with the red probe of your meter (install a paper clip into the back of the plug of the TPS) to see which wire has the 5 volts. One of the other wires should show .26V (or so). The other wire will be the ground and should show no voltage. Move the throttle and look for smooth meter response up to the 4.49 at WOT.

Perform the test procedure again and wiggle and/or tap on the TPS while you watch the meter. If you notice any flat spots or abrupt changes in the meter readings, replace the TPS.

The TPS is sensitive to heat, moisture and vibration leading to the failure of some units. The sensor is a sealed unit and cannot be repaired only replaced. A TPS may fail gradually leading to a number of symptoms which can include one or more of the following: -

NOTE: The throttle position sensor is also DIRECTLY involved with transmission shifting characteristics! It should be verified early in the troubleshooting process, when a transmission issue is suspected!

• Poor idle control: The TPS is used by the ECU to determine if the throttle is closed and the car should be using the Idle Air Control Valve exclusively for idle control. A fault TPS sensor can confuse the ECU causing the idle to be erratic or "hunting".
• High Idle Speed: The TPS may report faulty values causing the engine idle speed to be increased above normal. This is normally found in conjunction with a slow engine return to idle speed symptom.
• Slow engine return to idle: A failing TPS can report the minimum throttle position values incorrectly which can stop the engine entering idle mode when the throttle is closed. Normally when the throttle is closed the engine fuel injectors will be deactivated until a defined engine RPM speed is reached and the engine brought smoothly to idle speed. When failing a TPS will not report the throttle closed and fueling will continue causing the engine to return to idle very slowly.
• Engine Hesitation on Throttle Application: The TPS is also used by the ECU to determine if the driver has applied the throttle quicker than the Manifold Air Pressure sensor can read. The fueling is adjusted accordingly to cope with the sudden increase in air volume, however a faulty sensor can cause the ECU to ignore this data and the engine will "hesitate" when applying the throttle. In extreme cases with the engine at idle, a sudden application of full throttle can stall the engine.
• Engine Misfire: A fault TPS can report values outside the denied acceptable range causing the ECU to incorrectly fuel the engine. This is noticeable as a slight misfire and can trigger the misfire detection software and/or Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) light on the dashboard. Extreme cases can cause excessing misfires resulting in one or more cylinders being shut down to prevent engine and catalytic converter damage.
Old 07-05-2015 | 03:03 PM
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So I have a 91 Cherokee Laredo. I will be on a high way and go to get it to pass some one and it will pick up and go. As soon as it's getting for around 5 seconds it starts jerking onme like it's not getting gas? I was thinking it could be a cloged fuel filter or??? Tps ...
Old 07-05-2015 | 05:25 PM
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Im with TJ on this; check your TPS first then go through your fuel system.
Old 07-05-2015 | 10:39 PM
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So i went and looked under the 91 xj and noticed the down pipe and connecter, well were the exhaust meets the headers and its smashed in about half way.. ...so now i think that it was bogging out do to all the back pressure. So i got new gaskets and exhaust donut. But my exhaust is so nasty i will have to replace the hole thing from headers back. Its strange though because it does not back fire or act weird until i keep the peddle to the floor for a little bit.. ....so to much air flow threw the exhaust but its bent bad....and i cant afford to fix it.. ...
Old 07-06-2015 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by jeremyjr
So i went and looked under the 91 xj and noticed the down pipe and connecter, well were the exhaust meets the headers and its smashed in about half way.. ...so now i think that it was bogging out do to all the back pressure. So i got new gaskets and exhaust donut. But my exhaust is so nasty i will have to replace the hole thing from headers back. Its strange though because it does not back fire or act weird until i keep the peddle to the floor for a little bit.. ....so to much air flow threw the exhaust but its bent bad....and i cant afford to fix it.. ...
That dent is there from the factory to help heat the catalytic converter up for emissions.
Old 07-07-2015 | 06:18 PM
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Thank you i will check....but as for the dent...its right benieth the exhaust donut. So thats were the factory put it?????
Old 07-07-2015 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jeremyjr
Thank you i will check....but as for the dent...its right benieth the exhaust donut. So thats were the factory put it?????
Yes
Old 07-09-2015 | 12:56 PM
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I would also check that the internals on the cat are not broken. I had a similar problem with mine any time I would go up hill or accelerate it would bog down and not want to move. I changed it now its all better no more problems.
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