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Old 10-11-2012 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by johnwdillon
I suppose it is possible that it was something else not causing it to start, but after I pulled the TPS plug and cleaned it and put it back, it started right up.. May have just been a coincidence.


I am pretty fresh to jeeps,(and mechanics in any way) so I am not trying to sound like a dumb_____ here.. I just need to learn more about it I guess .
but that's why I am here
Well stay tuned and you'll likely learn something!! LOL>
Old 10-11-2012 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
RENIX TPS ADJUSTMENT
Before attempting to adjust your TPS be sure the throttle body has been recently cleaned. It's especially important that the edges of the throttle butterfly are free of any carbon build-up.
IMPORTANT NOTE: With the Key OFF, and using the positive (red) lead of your ohmmeter, probe the B terminal of the flat 3 wire connector of the TPS. The letters are embossed on the connector itself. Touch the black lead of your meter to the negative battery post. Wiggle the wiring harness where it parallels the valve cover and also over near the MAP sensor on the firewall. If you see more than 1 ohm of resistance, or fluctuation in your ohms reading, some modifications to the sensor ground harness will be necessary. The harness repair must be performed before proceeding. I can provide an instruction sheet for that if needed.
MANUAL TRANSMISSION:
RENIX manual transmission equipped XJs have only a flat three-wire TPS mounted on the throttle bodyand it provides data input to the ECU. It has three wires in the connector and they're clearly embossed with the letters A, B, and C. Wire "A" is positive. Wire "B" is ground. Key ON, measure voltage from "A" positive to "B" ground by back-probing the connectors. Note the voltage reading--this is your REFERENCE voltage. Key ON, back-probe the connector at wires "B" and "C". Measure the voltage. This is your OUTPUT voltage. Your OUTPUT voltage needs to be seventeen percent of your REFERENCE voltage. For example: 4.82 volts X .17=.82 volts. Loosen both T-20 Torx screws attaching the TPS to the throttle body and rotate the TPS until you
have achieved your desired output voltage. Tighten the screws carefully while watching to see that your output voltage remains where it is supposed to be. If you can't achieve the correct output voltage, replace the TPS and start over.
Sometimes, after adjusting your TPS the way outlined above, you may experience a high idle upon starting. If that happens, shut the engine off and reconnect your probes to B and C. Start the engine and while watching your meter, turn the TPS clockwise until the idle drops to normal and then rotate it back counterclockwise to your desired output voltage.
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION: RENIX automatic transmission equipped XJs have a TPS with two connectors. There is a flat three-wire connector, same as the manual transmission vehicles have, and it is tested the same as the manual transmission equipped vehicles, as outlined above—FOR ALL ENGINE MANAGEMENT RELATED ISSUES.
However, the automatic TPS also has a square four-wire connector, clearly embossed with the letters A,B,C, and D. It only uses three wires and provides information to the Transmission Control Module. THIS SQUARE FOUR WIRE CONNECTOR IS USED FOR TRANSMISSION/SHIFTING RELATED ISSUES ONLY. Key ON, measure voltage between "A" positive and "D" ground. Note the voltage. This is your REFERENCE voltage. Back-probe the connector at wires "B" and "D". Measure the voltage. This is your OUTPUT voltage. Your OUTPUT voltage needs to be eighty-three percent of your REFERENCE voltage. For example 4.8 volts X .83=3.98 volts. Adjust the TPS until you have achieved this percentage. If you can't, replace the TPS and start over. So, if you have an automatic equipped XJ your TPS has two sides--one side feeds the ECU, and the other side feeds the TCU.
FOR AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION RELATED ISSUES: Check the square four-wire connector side of the TPS.
If you have ENGINE ISSUES check the flat three-wire connector side of the TPS.
For those with a MANUAL TRANSMISSION--the TPS for the manual transmission XJs is stupid expensive. You can substitute the automatic transmission TPS which is reasonably priced.
Revised 09-22-2012

thanks for the help. that seems pretty strait forward. I will give it a shot tonight.
Old 10-11-2012 | 07:18 PM
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Just the adjustment or replace the TPS? A good one at Napa is $51. Bought 2 of them today.
Old 10-11-2012 | 07:39 PM
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Is it worth just changing the TPS as a maintenance item every 100k? If you have the funds, and want to address as much as you can before it breaks. Or does the TPS fail very rarely?
Old 10-11-2012 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BimmerJeeper
Is it worth just changing the TPS as a maintenance item every 100k? If you have the funds, and want to address as much as you can before it breaks. Or does the TPS fail very rarely?
I was thinking about that today. Probably a good idea to change it at 100K. They rarely lived anywhere that long anyway.
Old 10-11-2012 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
I was thinking about that today. Probably a good idea to change it at 100K. They rarely lived anywhere that long anyway.
well mine has 270xxx on it and I figure it has never been changed lol
so I bet you that is the problem
Old 10-12-2012 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
I was thinking about that today. Probably a good idea to change it at 100K. They rarely lived anywhere that long anyway.
So I took the jeep into the shop, they called me and said due to the massive blow back, and knocking and ticking and a few other issues..he claims my motor is toast, and in bad need of a complete rebuild.. to which he quoted a minimum of 3500 dollars.. this seems extraordinarily high..

the cooling system is gone too, needs new water pump, radiator, hoses, thermostat and reservoir to which he quoted almost 900..

the miss he said may be caused by a bad tps. but with the other things going on, he could not guarantee that..
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