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Just replaced Water pump, thermostat and radiator still overheating. Help!
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From: Los Angeles, CA
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Just replaced Water pump, thermostat and radiator still overheating. Help!
So I have been working on this Jeep for awhile, its a 2000 4.0L, 180K miles.
- It was overheating, I took it to a shop, guy says he will replace my radiator.
-Got 2 miles down the road and it overheated again.
-Towed it back to my house, figured out there was no thermostat
-replaced thermostat and waterpump myself. still overheats very quickly.
note: heater core is bypassed
Please help with any suggestions, I would love to get this Jeep back on the road this month otherwise I have to scrap it before I move
Thanks!
- It was overheating, I took it to a shop, guy says he will replace my radiator.
-Got 2 miles down the road and it overheated again.
-Towed it back to my house, figured out there was no thermostat
-replaced thermostat and waterpump myself. still overheats very quickly.
note: heater core is bypassed
Please help with any suggestions, I would love to get this Jeep back on the road this month otherwise I have to scrap it before I move
Thanks!
#3
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From: In the middle of Minnesota!
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I agree that a cracked cylinder head is a definite possibility.
The #1 symptom of a cracked 0331 head is "unexplained coolant loss" Are you experiencing that?
It sounds like you possibly just bought this XJ as you had no prior knowledge that it had no thermostat. The prior owner likely took it out as he had no clue as to what was happening....
I would first look through the oil fill cap with a pressurized cooling system (cooling system pressure tester) and see if you can see anti-freeze seeping through the head in the cylinder 3-4 area, which is where the 0331 always cracks.
The #1 symptom of a cracked 0331 head is "unexplained coolant loss" Are you experiencing that?
It sounds like you possibly just bought this XJ as you had no prior knowledge that it had no thermostat. The prior owner likely took it out as he had no clue as to what was happening....
I would first look through the oil fill cap with a pressurized cooling system (cooling system pressure tester) and see if you can see anti-freeze seeping through the head in the cylinder 3-4 area, which is where the 0331 always cracks.
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#4
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From: Los Angeles, CA
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
The oil and coolant appear to be normal, although I have been suspicious it was the head...really operating on wishful thinking before I take that leap.
I have had the Jeep for 2 years, when the guy replaced the radiator it appears that he did not put a thermostat back in...since then I have just been doing what I can myself because that way at least I know whats going on first hand...and I am learning as well.
About the pressure check, is that something I can do myself or should I get it diagnosed? I can get it to a shop before it overheats, i live near several.
Thanks for your help!
I have had the Jeep for 2 years, when the guy replaced the radiator it appears that he did not put a thermostat back in...since then I have just been doing what I can myself because that way at least I know whats going on first hand...and I am learning as well.
About the pressure check, is that something I can do myself or should I get it diagnosed? I can get it to a shop before it overheats, i live near several.
Thanks for your help!
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From: Los Angeles, CA
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Also, it doesnt appear to be leaking coolant at all. The one concern I have is it never takes it from the reservoir either which I find strange...
But I will admit, I am still a novice at best when it comes to repairing vehicles, replacing the water pump is definitely the most in depth repair I have done.
But I will admit, I am still a novice at best when it comes to repairing vehicles, replacing the water pump is definitely the most in depth repair I have done.
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From: The Republic of TEXAS
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
"Not running a t-stat will cause overheating" is a myth. The sole function of a t-stat is get coolant/motor temp up to the stat's designated temp as quickly as possible. Once the stat is wide open (same as no stat), it does nothing.
U say 2 miles down the road it overheats after installing a new rad, water pump and t-stat. Is that driving very slow for 2 miles and it over heats? If so, could be a bad fan clutch as stated. If driving at hi-way speed, it shouldn't need any fan(s) at all to remain cool. Definitely do the pressure test as recommended and verify the goofy factory temp gauge reading with a infrared point-n-shoot temp gun.
U say 2 miles down the road it overheats after installing a new rad, water pump and t-stat. Is that driving very slow for 2 miles and it over heats? If so, could be a bad fan clutch as stated. If driving at hi-way speed, it shouldn't need any fan(s) at all to remain cool. Definitely do the pressure test as recommended and verify the goofy factory temp gauge reading with a infrared point-n-shoot temp gun.
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From: Pulaski, IA
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Straight 6
when i got my jeep i had to put a new water pump on it and it overheated, so i put a new thermostat, radiator, and fan clutch on and it still did. So i bought a flush kit from autozone and flushed it and it hasnt overheated since and that was last year so i would try that.
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From: The Republic of TEXAS
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
Impossible for air to be behind the stat (unless coolant level is below the stat). The stat hole in the head has a dime sized hole beside it (the coolant bypass hole) that allows water/air to flow both behind and beside the closed stat the moment the motor is started. The stat will open at it's rated temp in both air as well as in water.
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From: Los Angeles, CA
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Thanks for all the help folks, I am going to check the pressure and most likely replace at least the head, or more if that is what it takes. I wanna keep this jeep, I love the thing...anyone know a good jeep guy in the LA area I am all ears!
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Also, there's a good Jeep guy in Palmdale, and he's reasonable and honest.
Kim's Auto Repair Service.
Can someone help me with the burp job on the '90 Laredo? I just bought it; have a YJ and a 2005 Liberty 4X, and just sold my 1984 CJ to my Son-in-Law.
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From: The Republic of TEXAS
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
I think it needs burping, because I had the same problem with a CJ. Couldn't get water into the bottom of the engine after a radiator replacement. I need to burp my 1990, but there's no cap! How do I do it?
Also, there's a good Jeep guy in Palmdale, and he's reasonable and honest.
Kim's Auto Repair Service.
Can someone help me with the burp job on the '90 Laredo? I just bought it; have a YJ and a 2005 Liberty 4X, and just sold my 1984 CJ to my Son-in-Law.
Also, there's a good Jeep guy in Palmdale, and he's reasonable and honest.
Kim's Auto Repair Service.
Can someone help me with the burp job on the '90 Laredo? I just bought it; have a YJ and a 2005 Liberty 4X, and just sold my 1984 CJ to my Son-in-Law.