Like flipping a switch - suddenly misfiring badly.
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From: Lost in the wilds of Virginia
Year: 1998 Classic (I'll get it running soon....) and 02 Grand
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Like flipping a switch - suddenly misfiring badly.
On my way home, minding my own business, and suddenly my 97 4.0 beast starts misfiring, badly enough I thought I had just run out of gas. Checked the gauge - half full.
Got it home and checked for codes. P300 (random misfires), 301, 303, and 304. That's cylinders 1,3, and 4 misfiring.
Checked the cap and rotor - pretty nasty. Carboned up pretty badly. I cleaned it up and put it back together to get to work tomorrow.
I don't know for sure when I changed it last - I lost my records in a phone swap. Anyway, I think it's been about 2 years, and it's at least one year. Whenever it was, I did the plugs, rotor, cap, and wires at that time.
I'll pick up new tomorrow, but here's the question:
Why so suddenly?
It hasn't been running great, but this was like flipping a switch. I really thought I'd run out of gas. I've never had that happen before.
Got it home and checked for codes. P300 (random misfires), 301, 303, and 304. That's cylinders 1,3, and 4 misfiring.
Checked the cap and rotor - pretty nasty. Carboned up pretty badly. I cleaned it up and put it back together to get to work tomorrow.
I don't know for sure when I changed it last - I lost my records in a phone swap. Anyway, I think it's been about 2 years, and it's at least one year. Whenever it was, I did the plugs, rotor, cap, and wires at that time.
I'll pick up new tomorrow, but here's the question:
Why so suddenly?
It hasn't been running great, but this was like flipping a switch. I really thought I'd run out of gas. I've never had that happen before.
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From: Canton, MI
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
On my way home, minding my own business, and suddenly my 97 4.0 beast starts misfiring, badly enough I thought I had just run out of gas. Checked the gauge - half full.
Got it home and checked for codes. P300 (random misfires), 301, 303, and 304. That's cylinders 1,3, and 4 misfiring.
Checked the cap and rotor - pretty nasty. Carboned up pretty badly. I cleaned it up and put it back together to get to work tomorrow.
I don't know for sure when I changed it last - I lost my records in a phone swap. Anyway, I think it's been about 2 years, and it's at least one year. Whenever it was, I did the plugs, rotor, cap, and wires at that time.
I'll pick up new tomorrow, but here's the question:
Why so suddenly?
It hasn't been running great, but this was like flipping a switch. I really thought I'd run out of gas. I've never had that happen before.
Got it home and checked for codes. P300 (random misfires), 301, 303, and 304. That's cylinders 1,3, and 4 misfiring.
Checked the cap and rotor - pretty nasty. Carboned up pretty badly. I cleaned it up and put it back together to get to work tomorrow.
I don't know for sure when I changed it last - I lost my records in a phone swap. Anyway, I think it's been about 2 years, and it's at least one year. Whenever it was, I did the plugs, rotor, cap, and wires at that time.
I'll pick up new tomorrow, but here's the question:
Why so suddenly?
It hasn't been running great, but this was like flipping a switch. I really thought I'd run out of gas. I've never had that happen before.
When you get around to replacing the cap, rotor, wires and plugs, check to see if there excessive up and down movement on the rotor shaft. And see if there's excessive rotary motion in the rotor shaft.
Edit: The Camshaft Position Sensor is probably ate up as well. Replace it.
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From: Canton, MI
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I think up and down and rotary should not exceed 1/8" (at least that's abut the play I have in mine.
If you search around there is a relatively current post about excessive play in the distributor shaft.
Edit: Here - https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/cou...p-code-211337/
If you search around there is a relatively current post about excessive play in the distributor shaft.
Edit: Here - https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/cou...p-code-211337/
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From: Lost in the wilds of Virginia
Year: 1998 Classic (I'll get it running soon....) and 02 Grand
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Well, no problem with the play. A new coil, rotor, cap, wires, and plugs from NAPA and it's purring like a kitten.
Still puzzled by the suddenness of the misfire. Maybe the resistance of the cap/rotor just got to the point where a weak coil couldn't overcome it anymore.
Still puzzled by the suddenness of the misfire. Maybe the resistance of the cap/rotor just got to the point where a weak coil couldn't overcome it anymore.
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From: Canton, MI
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Well, no problem with the play. A new coil, rotor, cap, wires, and plugs from NAPA and it's purring like a kitten.
Still puzzled by the suddenness of the misfire. Maybe the resistance of the cap/rotor just got to the point where a weak coil couldn't overcome it anymore.
Still puzzled by the suddenness of the misfire. Maybe the resistance of the cap/rotor just got to the point where a weak coil couldn't overcome it anymore.
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From: Lost in the wilds of Virginia
Year: 1998 Classic (I'll get it running soon....) and 02 Grand
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Well, the mystery deepens. Back to running badly, again, like flipping a switch. Rather than have two threads going, I'll link to my newer one, for any who are trying to chase down similar problems.
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