Long Crank Time When Cold or...
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From: British Columbia
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Long Crank Time When Cold or...
I tried to search and went through 40+ pages to try and find my problem with no luck.
I have a 1997 4.0 auto and when I go to start it for the first time that day it cranks over for 5 or so seconds before it starts but runs perfect and no loss of power at all. It also does the long crank issue after a long hill on the highway and you stop at the top and shut it off and go to restart it but drive around on flat ground and never a problem.
I was thinking the fuel pressure regulator but wanted second opinions before I pull the fuel tank to change it.
I have a 1997 4.0 auto and when I go to start it for the first time that day it cranks over for 5 or so seconds before it starts but runs perfect and no loss of power at all. It also does the long crank issue after a long hill on the highway and you stop at the top and shut it off and go to restart it but drive around on flat ground and never a problem.
I was thinking the fuel pressure regulator but wanted second opinions before I pull the fuel tank to change it.
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From: Monett, MO.
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Simple quick fix turn on ign. switch to on and let fuel pump run for about 5-10 sec. then press peddle to floor release, then turn to start.
The pressure is leaking of the fuel rail when left overnight try this and repair when you get time.
The pressure is leaking of the fuel rail when left overnight try this and repair when you get time.
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From: British Columbia
Year: 1997
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Thankyou and I will do that, so you say my fuel rail is leaking or is it not keeping fuel there and allowing it to drain back to the fuel tank?
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From: Baltimore, Maryland
Year: 1994 1993
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I tried to search and went through 40+ pages to try and find my problem with no luck.
I have a 1997 4.0 auto and when I go to start it for the first time that day it cranks over for 5 or so seconds before it starts but runs perfect and no loss of power at all. It also does the long crank issue after a long hill on the highway and you stop at the top and shut it off and go to restart it but drive around on flat ground and never a problem.
I was thinking the fuel pressure regulator but wanted second opinions before I pull the fuel tank to change it.
I have a 1997 4.0 auto and when I go to start it for the first time that day it cranks over for 5 or so seconds before it starts but runs perfect and no loss of power at all. It also does the long crank issue after a long hill on the highway and you stop at the top and shut it off and go to restart it but drive around on flat ground and never a problem.
I was thinking the fuel pressure regulator but wanted second opinions before I pull the fuel tank to change it.
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From: In the middle of Minnesota!
Year: 1999
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Start a new thread. You'll get more accurate replies and will keep confusion on people working this thread to a minimum.
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From: In the middle of Minnesota!
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I tried to search and went through 40+ pages to try and find my problem with no luck.
I have a 1997 4.0 auto and when I go to start it for the first time that day it cranks over for 5 or so seconds before it starts but runs perfect and no loss of power at all. It also does the long crank issue after a long hill on the highway and you stop at the top and shut it off and go to restart it but drive around on flat ground and never a problem.
I was thinking the fuel pressure regulator but wanted second opinions before I pull the fuel tank to change it.
I have a 1997 4.0 auto and when I go to start it for the first time that day it cranks over for 5 or so seconds before it starts but runs perfect and no loss of power at all. It also does the long crank issue after a long hill on the highway and you stop at the top and shut it off and go to restart it but drive around on flat ground and never a problem.
I was thinking the fuel pressure regulator but wanted second opinions before I pull the fuel tank to change it.
A good (and simple) first step in helping you troubleshoot this problem is called “the poor mans prime”
1. Turn key to ON position (do not crank the engine!)
2. The fuel pump will energize and run for about 2 seconds. Be sure to wait until it stops running.
3. Turn key to OFF position
4. Repeat above steps 1-3 two more times
5. NOW crank the engine over
If the engine starts quickly and cleanly after performing this procedure, you may have a check valve issue. If it starts and runs poorly for a few seconds, it could also be a leaky fuel injector resulting in the fuel pressure leaking down and the subsequent stumble upon startup is the engine clearing the excess fuel that has leaked into the cylinder because of the faulty injector.
Also be aware that a bad battery can give you starting symptoms as well. Have your battery load tested (any parts store will do this for free) if you have any doubt; your XJ does NOT like low available battery voltage. Be sure battery connections and posts are CLEAN.
Some troubleshooting tips for extended crank times. You will need a fuel pressure gauge. Many parts stores will rent you this tool inexpensively.
*Hook up fuel pressure gauge on the schrader valve on the fuel rail under the hood
*Start engine and bring to normal operating temperature.
*Observe fuel pressure gauge. Normal operating pressure should be 49.2 psi (plus or minus 5 psi)
*Shut engine off.
*Observe pressure on gauge. Pressure should not fall below 30 psi for five minutes.
If pressure falls below 30 psi, it must be determined if a fuel injector, a check valve within the
fuel pump assembly, or a fuel tube/line is leaking. An adaptor tool/hose normally included with the fuel pressure gauge can help you with this. Consult the manual that comes with the fuel pressure gauge and the Factory Service Manual for your year XJ for more information on this exact procedure, but here is basically how it works:
*Turn the engine off and immediately clamp the fuel line at the adaptor hose. Watch the pressure gauge and see how long it takes to lose pressure.
*If the pressure remains at 49 psi for an extended period of time then the problem is in the tank – most likely a check valve. If the pressure falls below 49 psi fairly rapidly then the problem is probably a leaky fuel injector.
**Note. Where check valve is suspect, a quick loss of fuel pressure is often the fuel pressure regulator check valve and a slow loss of pressure is often the fuel pump check valve. But keep in mind that either or both check valves can be to blame.
You can limp a check valve problem along indefinitely if you like, as it doesn't mean the fuel pump itself is going to fail. Perform the “poor mans prime” before cranking to speed up your starts. However, if you have a check valve issue and want to resolve it, it is recommended that you replace the entire fuel pump assembly for two reasons. First, you have to drop the gas tank to access the assembly. Secondly, with two check valves, replacing just the fuel pressure regulator where one of the check valve resides may or may not resolve your problem; remember there are two check valves; the other check valve is part of the fuel pump.
The fuel pump assembly consists of fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator, fuel gauge sending unit, fuel gauge float, pickup filter and pigtail wiring harness. If you do replace the fuel pump assembly, purchase a high quality assembly. Know this….you do get what you pay for here. Some cheap aftermarket assemblies have been known to fail prematurely. I personally prefer Bosch fuel pumps as they manufacture the best fuel pump assemblies for the XJ. Carter is my second choice. Airtex is my least favorite choice and I will not recommend or install them. A search will show you why.
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