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Old 05-20-2014, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DFlintstone

So it's about fine, but missing? Plugs, cap, Rotor, Wires? (Plugs at .035?) (Not platinum).

Did you check a few easy to reach manifold bolts and see if they were loose?
Plugs are new(copper), wires too. And the cap and rotor looked to have been replaced recently.

And I'm going to check on those bolts today
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Can you tighten the manifold bolts after only removing the air box? I've got to do mine and was dreading taking out all my injectors etc to get at it.
Like Cruiser says, that's it. They (of course) put one odd-ball bolt there on the bottom, maybe 17mm, then the other is 9/16-14mm IIRC.

BD, I'll usually just take the cap and rotor into the kitchen and clean them like any other dirty dish. If the rotor looks OK and the electrodes on the cap are there and intact. The main problem I see is any stuff, condensation, or anything that will let the spark choose another path other than from the rotor tip to the electrode on the cap. The high temp plastic is not hard to get good and dry when you are done.

I guess we are all curious about your miss. If you intend to keep and use the Jeep, your investment in better injectors will pay for it's-self at some point. Might take a while if you gain one MPG, but while you are waiting it will run noticeably better!
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Originally Posted by DFlintstone
Like Cruiser says, that's it. They (of course) put one odd-ball bolt there on the bottom, maybe 17mm, then the other is 9/16-14mm IIRC.

BD, I'll usually just take the cap and rotor into the kitchen and clean them like any other dirty dish. If the rotor looks OK and the electrodes on the cap are there and intact. The main problem I see is any stuff, condensation, or anything that will let the spark choose another path other than from the rotor tip to the electrode on the cap. The high temp plastic is not hard to get good and dry when you are done.

I guess we are all curious about your miss. If you intend to keep and use the Jeep, your investment in better injectors will pay for it's-self at some point. Might take a while if you gain one MPG, but while you are waiting it will run noticeably better!
Yeah its not a rhythmic miss like if I had a bad valve or plug, its random. And any suggestions on which injectors would be the best choice?
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The volvo injectors Seem to be doing great in mine ....DFlinstone turned us on to them...https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/199...r-swap-163105/

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746s all the way. Programbo here on CF supplies them.
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Originally Posted by bdcontraplayr
any suggestions on which injectors would be the best choice?
I can't help but be curious. Does whatever you are using let you see a posters signature? (That's the stuff below the "main post".) I'm curious exactly what is lost now with the improved devices. Of course for those new to the new, they don't even know they lost things!

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So I checked the bolts on the Intake Manifold, everything is all tightened up. Maybe I should check with getting injectors
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There is plenty of room for improvement there. When I went to the 4 hole 703's I thought WOW. Then yet again from the 703's to 746's double wow.

Do we get to call this thread a success? It's about OK? Another U-tube?
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No go, still the same :'( , I don't want to sell it because I really want to find out the problem so other people can find this if the have the same trouble.

That's why I'm thinking maybe updating on the injectors
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Originally Posted by bdcontraplayr
And guess what, it was running just fine(still, the missing was still being felt in the block) and I could press the throttle without it cutting out!
OK, I'm still a little unclear. Anyway let us know how it goes.
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OK, I'm still a little unclear. Anyway let us know how it goes.
I'm guessing it was a fluke. I try to recreate the same thing but its just cutting out. Maybe I have a bad O2 sensor?
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Originally Posted by bdcontraplayr
I'm guessing it was a fluke. I try to recreate the same thing but its just cutting out. Maybe I have a bad O2 sensor?
O2 sensor will not cause a "cut out".
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Originally Posted by cruiser54

O2 sensor will not cause a "cut out".
OK, I was just getting suggestions from my mom who used to be a mechanic. She was thinking that since it only happens when the vehicle is getting warm
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Could the pause be because the MAP is not registering/reporting the drop in manifold vacuum the the ECU correctly? I'm at a loss what else it could be. (You might check that ground at "A" as well). I might double check that no wires got mixed up during the C101 work, especially the MAP wires. I suppose fluid in the MAP tube could cause a delay as well.


Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor (MAP)

MAP sensor.

Located on driver side of firewall just behind & above engine. Located on firewall behind valve cover. To test, using a voltmeter with the ignition on/engine off, voltage at terminal B should be 4 - 5 volts. The voltage should drop to 1.5 - 2.1 volts with a HOT, neutral idle engine. Supply voltage can be checked at terminal C with the ignition on. Voltage there should be 5 volts + or - 0.5 volts (Terminal A is the ground wire).

> What does it do? Compares ambient barometric pressure during start-up (cranking) to engine load while engine is running. The ECU computes that information and adjusts the air-fuel mixture accordingly.


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