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Old 03-27-2010, 04:39 PM
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the hole thing with the cam is to get more out of the low end.. xj gota a MEAN 1 and 2 gear.. thats it.. these arent for top speed like the 1/4.. you prob can get people out of the cornters in autocross

http://www.compcams.com/Cam_Specs/Ca...x?csid=12&sb=2

theres alot you can do to get it to handle.. BUT i wood redo the drivetrain youll run out of motr and gear.. top end atlest

it wood be cool to get a two door 2wd make it light bulit motor and get it to make turns at 100
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i know what your saying from about 0-50 these thing fly but then die like a turtle after that. doing the cam would be ideal for off the line. but as aj said you wouldn't get top end. there are cams for the 98's and ups just go on comp cams im not sure of the price for the whole kit with lifters and spacers i thinks its around 800. but im not 100% sure.
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Originally Posted by DagBMX
not to bash your origional idea with the wheel package here, but you can go wider without having to put spacers on. there are steel wheels and alloys out there that have 3.75" backspacing and really stick them wide. the hard part when it comes to the alloys though is finding a design you like. i've seen alloys with that much backspacing, but the designs on them, meh... they just ain't that great looking.
x2 on not bashing but most alloys have the flat face look im looking to have some kind of dish in the wheel and a lil more look.. i like the 5 spoke look that was the original idea but cant find any that look good and personally i think im goin to stic with the steelies. i like the nascar image maybe bump up to the 16x8 instead of 15x8 and i dont want the wheels sticking out further than the fenders (mexicans) no offense.. so im going with the 4.5 backspacing which if im not mistakin that would put it right where i need to be...
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Originally Posted by JJaycXj
comp cams has them thats where i was looking at getting one.
not for any block made after 1998. only up to 1997 like i said. the cam for the 1998 + was redesigned to eliminate a cam lobe and added a key snout to the end of the cam. the cam retainer, and timing gears are also different due to this redesign. ive heard of people using 1998 and newer block with a comp cam for up to a 1997 block but i dont know how they are making it work, if they are getting the cam retainer and timing gears for an older block or if there is any machine work involved in making the cam work...
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I love that I read 2 and a half pages of this thread and have not seen any flaming. Granted I may have missed some. But is shows that we do have some mature members here.

Keep up the good work I don't feel like Banning anyone today ha ha.
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^ whats flaming?
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Originally Posted by tannerp89
^ whats flaming?
Basically its the people that bash on other peoples idea/likes becuase its not what they did and not something normal.. i started this thread as well as others and each time off road guys would talk trash... but x2 this is the best forum im on.. decent folks here
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Originally Posted by 98jeepsrt6
Basically its the people that bash on other peoples idea/likes becuase its not what they did and not something normal.. i started this thread as well as others and each time off road guys would talk trash... but x2 this is the best forum im on.. decent folks here
oh ok....learned something new
x2 on the decent folks but every once in a while someone gets a wild hair up there *** and decides to be a dick head...oh well guess everyone is entitled to their opinion.
and as far as a lowered xj i think it would be awesome. i have a 1988 S10 blazer that lays frame and i love it. if i were to lower my jeep id look into eibach lowering springs, go axle over spring w/ blocks and air shocks so you can adjust the ride height if you need to haul ****, then go back as low as you could get it.
and if i remember right S10 front springs might fit...
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your the second guy that mentioned the eibach springs but i have yet to find them and x2 on the spring under and air shocks i was thinkin air bags supporters but thats to much work... i think..

here, im sure youve read some of this thread what wheels would you go with on the setup im looking???
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ya for air bags you would have to add the buckets for the bags and an air compressor and valves and switches and its just too much work. with air shocks its easy. mount in stock location, run air line to the shock, mount a strater valve and go. that and being as the xj is a unibody you wont get the full potential out of air bags because you dont have anywhere to tuck your axles like on a conventional lowered truck.
as far as springs go um...probably have to take some measurements of the stock springs (spring diameter, height, width of wire used to make spring) and do some cross reference. i couldnt find specs on any of the springs so maybe call eibach and talk to them? find a set of springs that are same diameter/load rating but shorter for a different application.
i dont recommend cutting your springs though, because your cutting the load capabilities away from the spring. the only reason i recommend eibach is because they compress at high speeds decreasing drag and camber and increasing handling at high speed.
for wheels 4.5" on stock tires will put you 1" past the flare. and your right on about any alloy with backspacing is ugly. if you get stuck on a rim id say spacers but if not go with some steelies i guess. i just think steelies wouldnt look right for the look your goin for but...JMO
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Originally Posted by Brad M.
No flaming from me. I say do it. The XJ actually makes a sweet racer. Check out this thread, these guys did pretty much what you're talking about (cut down front coils);

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthrea...ja+racing+back

that wing is the dumbest thing ive ever seen and its not even a functional wing... the jeep wont be doin speeds for that cheap wing to create downforce... just ugly... and hes tryin to road race with those huge sidewalls?! gl with that.. either way its showing the lowering can be done..
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Originally Posted by Mitsuboost30
that wing is the dumbest thing ive ever seen and its not even a functional wing... the jeep wont be doin speeds for that cheap wing to create downforce... just ugly... and hes tryin to road race with those huge sidewalls?! gl with that.. either way its showing the lowering can be done..
the race is called the 24 hours of LeMons (lemons, get it?) its a joke. and yea, the 15s have a pretty big sidewall but stiff rubber is stiff rubber. they would def do better with larger rims, but they did pretty good.
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ok i spent a week trying to figure out the exact measurements of bs and offset... and from what i got i got that it would bring right to the end of the flare... i look into finding the diameter.. etc for the springs and go from there...

You seem to understand these 4.0 pretty well i have a question for you... not to many people have done the turbo upgrade on these engines and the people who do put small t3/t4 turbos to get more low end torque.. im looking at top end.. not to go extremely fast ill be scared with a box suv going fast.. but something that will boost around 2500rpm and go from there....

My idea is that if i get the larger turbo with the same boost as the smaller 6-8 psi max.. the turbo lag will postpone full boost till about 2500 i think.. and give it that extra push it needs at higher rpms... i don't know how to use the calculator they have to test what would be the best application to use.. and it gives a map curve of how it will react with the engine... so i don't know need help if this is even possible...

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Originally Posted by 98jeepsrt6
x2 on not bashing but most alloys have the flat face look im looking to have some kind of dish in the wheel and a lil more look.. i like the 5 spoke look that was the original idea but cant find any that look good and personally i think im goin to stic with the steelies. i like the nascar image maybe bump up to the 16x8 instead of 15x8 and i dont want the wheels sticking out further than the fenders (mexicans) no offense.. so im going with the 4.5 backspacing which if im not mistakin that would put it right where i need to be...
16's, or even 17's, at 8" wide would be pretty solid. you could even go "Lambo" style on it with some really fat 16x10's on the back, and have 16x8 on the front, lol. get that wide traction in rear end and launch it.
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Originally Posted by 98jeepsrt6
ok i spent a week trying to figure out the exact measurements of bs and offset... and from what i got i got that it would bring right to the end of the flare... i look into finding the diameter.. etc for the springs and go from there...

You seem to understand these 4.0 pretty well i have a question for you... not to many people have done the turbo upgrade on these engines and the people who do put small t3/t4 turbos to get more low end torque.. im looking at top end.. not to go extremely fast ill be scared with a box suv going fast.. but something that will boost around 2500rpm and go from there....

My idea is that if i get the larger turbo with the same boost as the smaller 6-8 psi max.. the turbo lag will postpone full boost till about 2500 i think.. and give it that extra push it needs at higher rpms... i don't know how to use the calculator they have to test what would be the best application to use.. and it gives a map curve of how it will react with the engine... so i don't know need help if this is even possible...
man, i wish i knew more about turbos and the like. i could telly you basics on anything that is naturally aspirated, but i know nothing of turbos other than the bigger they get, the faster they get.


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