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Old 08-30-2012, 08:13 PM
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Np oh and when I said close your eyes I was just being a smartass. It wouldnt spark because all it does is discharge the energy in the ECU to ground. Good luck with your issue. Also check
Google for alternate ways to discharge the ECu power to reset the system. Good luck brother
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Keep posting your results I used to have a wrangler with a similar problem and I never tried this so I am interested how this turns out
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Worst case a map sensor isn't TOO expensive. Not cheap though too.
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Didnt work. Jeep surges then dies with map sensor plugged in. Unplug it and it runs.

Time to replace MAP sensor. Guess I'll have jeep test it, along with the 02 sensors and catalytic converter just so I know if anything else is wrong.

I'll post what they say and the results of my work.?
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Quick question. Did your favorites on your radio reset...
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You haven't replaced your thermostat lately have you? That wrangler I had was running rich becuase it had a 180 thermostat in it. I replaced it with a 195 and it didn't completely fix the problem but it got a lot better. Might be something to think about
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are you upluging the vacuum or electric
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Yes they did. Luckily I only listen to 2 stations. iPod the rest of the time.

It acted different. So the reset probably worked.
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No on the thermostat. Electric on the sensor.
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OBD II - touching the cables together, stepping on the brake pedal, killing a sheep at midnight, sacrificing a virgin, or flashing lights, does NOTHING - INTERNET RUMORS = BULL!

THE ONLY way to reset the PCM is disconnect battery power for at LEAST 8 HOURS. Resets the computer to factory default.

Do it whenever you change sensors, make major changes, or repair the vacuum lines.

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OBD II - touching the cables together, stepping on the brake pedal, killing a sheep at midnight, sacrificing a virgin, or flashing lights, does NOTHING - INTERNET RUMORS = BULL!

THE ONLY way to reset the PCM is disconnect battery power for at LEAST 8 HOURS. Resets the computer to factory default.

Do it whenever you change sensors, make major changes, or repair the vacuum lines.
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Originally Posted by Kayle Solo
No on the thermostat. Electric on the sensor.
vacuum to sensor i assume is present
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Connecting the vacuum when I noticed it was disconnected is what caused the surging.
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When running it without the line connected, the MAP no longer sends the right signal. Eventually the deep memory in the PCM tries to compensate as best it can.
When you reconnect the line, the PCM suddenly gets the right signal. But it takes TIME for the deep memory to adjust - till then it may surge, die or do other strange things.
Erasing the memory puts it back to default - it should run fine there. It will still tqke a few drive cycles to fine tune itself.

8 hour disconnect - other methods only clear codes, not the deep memory.
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Got the new sensor for $90. About to put it on. I'll just leave the battery disconnected until tomorrow.


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